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[34.85.230.48]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t10-20020a05622a01ca00b0035d432f5ba3sm2986613qtw.17.2022.10.28.14.42.30 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 28 Oct 2022 14:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 21:42:30 +0000 From: Joel Fernandes To: "Paul E. McKenney" Cc: Uladzislau Rezki , rcu@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com, rostedt@goodmis.org Subject: Re: [PATCH rcu 13/14] workqueue: Make queue_rcu_work() use call_rcu_flush() Message-ID: References: <20221019225144.2500095-13-paulmck@kernel.org> <20221024031540.GU5600@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1> <20221024153958.GY5600@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1> <20221024164819.GA5600@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 09:23:47PM +0000, Joel Fernandes wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 09:48:19AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 06:25:30PM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki wrote: > > > > > > > > You guys might need to agree on the definition of "good" here. Or maybe > > > > understand the differences in your respective platforms' definitions of > > > > "good". ;-) > > > > > > > Indeed. Bad is when once per-millisecond infinitely :) At least in such use > > > workload a can detect a power delta and power gain. Anyway, below is a new > > > trace where i do not use "flush" variant for the kvfree_rcu(): > > > > > > > > > 1. Home screen swipe: > > > rcuop/0-15 [003] d..1 1792.767750: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=1003 bl=10 > > > rcuop/2-33 [002] d..1 1792.771717: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=934 bl=10 > > > rcuop/3-40 [001] d..1 1794.811816: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=1508 bl=11 > > > rcuop/1-26 [003] d..1 1797.116382: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=2127 bl=16 > > > rcuop/4-48 [001] d..1 1797.124422: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=95 bl=10 > > > rcuop/5-55 [002] d..1 1797.124731: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=143 bl=10 > > > rcuop/6-62 [005] d..1 1798.911719: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=132 bl=10 > > > rcuop/2-33 [002] d..1 1803.003966: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=3797 bl=29 > > > rcuop/0-15 [003] d..1 1803.004707: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=2969 bl=23 > > > 2. App launches: > > > rcuop/4-48 [005] d..1 1831.087612: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=6141 bl=47 > > > rcuop/7-69 [007] d..1 1831.095578: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=5464 bl=42 > > > rcuop/5-55 [004] d..1 1832.703571: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=8461 bl=66 > > > rcuop/0-15 [004] d..1 1833.731603: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=2548 bl=19 > > > rcuop/1-26 [006] d..1 1833.743691: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=2567 bl=20 > > > rcuop/2-33 [006] d..1 1833.744005: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=2359 bl=18 > > > rcuop/3-40 [006] d..1 1833.744286: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=3681 bl=28 > > > rcuop/4-48 [002] d..1 1838.079777: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=10444 bl=81 > > > rcuop/7-69 [001] d..1 1838.080375: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=12572 bl=98 > > > <...>-62 [002] d..1 1838.080646: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=14135 bl=110 > > > rcuop/6-62 [000] d..1 1838.087722: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=10839 bl=84 > > > <...>-62 [003] d..1 1839.227022: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=1834 bl=14 > > > <...>-26 [001] d..1 1839.963315: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=5769 bl=45 > > > rcuop/2-33 [001] d..1 1839.966485: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=3789 bl=29 > > > <...>-40 [001] d..1 1839.966596: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=6425 bl=50 > > > rcuop/2-33 [005] d..1 1840.541272: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=825 bl=10 > > > rcuop/2-33 [005] d..1 1840.547724: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=44 bl=10 > > > rcuop/2-33 [005] d..1 1841.075759: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=516 bl=10 > > > rcuop/0-15 [002] d..1 1841.695716: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=6312 bl=49 > > > rcuop/0-15 [003] d..1 1841.709714: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=39 bl=10 > > > rcuop/5-55 [004] d..1 1843.112442: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=16007 bl=125 > > > rcuop/5-55 [004] d..1 1843.115444: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=7901 bl=61 > > > rcuop/6-62 [001] dn.1 1843.123983: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=8427 bl=65 > > > rcuop/6-62 [006] d..1 1843.412383: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=981 bl=10 > > > rcuop/0-15 [003] d..1 1844.659812: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=1851 bl=14 > > > rcuop/0-15 [003] d..1 1844.667790: rcu_batch_start: rcu_preempt CBs=135 bl=10 > > > > > > > > > it is much more better. But. As i wrote earlier there is a patch that i have submitted > > > some time ago improving kvfree_rcu() batching: > > > > > > > > > commit 51824b780b719c53113dc39e027fbf670dc66028 > > > Author: Uladzislau Rezki (Sony) > > > Date: Thu Jun 30 18:33:35 2022 +0200 > > > > > > rcu/kvfree: Update KFREE_DRAIN_JIFFIES interval > > > > > > Currently the monitor work is scheduled with a fixed interval of HZ/20, > > > which is roughly 50 milliseconds. The drawback of this approach is > > > low utilization of the 512 page slots in scenarios with infrequence > > > kvfree_rcu() calls. For example on an Android system: > > > > > > > > > The trace that i posted was taken without it. > > > > And if I am not getting too confused, that patch is now in mainline. > > So it does make sense to rely on it, then. ;-) > > Vlad's patch to change the KFREE_DRAIN_JIFFIES to 5 seconds seems reasonable > to me. However, can we unify KFREE_DRAIN_JIFFIES and LAZY_FLUSH_JIFFIES ? > > One at 5 and other at 10 seems odd, especially because the former seems to > negate the effects of the latter and anyone tweaking that in the future (say > via new command line options) should probably tweak them together to increase > batching. > > Testing shows significantly better batching with Vlad's updates, however I am > wondering why the rcu_callback fires in pairs like that from separate > kworkers: > > kworker/6:1-157 [006] d..1 288.861610: rcu_callback: rcu_preempt rhp=0000000079b895f9 func=rcu_work_rcufn 1214 > kworker/4:2-158 [004] d..1 288.861612: rcu_callback: rcu_preempt rhp=00000000d83fcc90 func=rcu_work_rcufn 798 I think this is just 2 kvfree_call_rcu() happening on 2 different CPUs, and then the draining happened on 2 different kworkers, so appears normal. Here is also some more evidence from the user side, of kvfree_call_rcu() noisiness on ChromeOS. So we definitely need the batching to happen on ChromeOS: kworker/u24:6-1448 [005] 77.290344: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- cfg80211_update_known_bss ThreadPoolForeg-5130 [011] 77.301101: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- cgroup_migrate_finish irq/144-iwlwifi-1010 [004] 77.314367: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- cfg80211_update_known_bss ThreadPoolSingl-2050 [004] 77.330359: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- cgroup_migrate_finish ThreadPoolSingl-2050 [004] 77.330362: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- cgroup_migrate_finish ThreadPoolForeg-5130 [011] 77.331513: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- cgroup_migrate_finish patchpaneld-2195 [009] 77.337726: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- neigh_flush_dev patchpaneld-2195 [009] 77.337737: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- __hw_addr_del_entry patchpaneld-2195 [009] 77.337744: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- addrconf_ifdown patchpaneld-2195 [009] 77.337744: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- __hw_addr_del_entry irq/144-iwlwifi-1010 [004] 77.633595: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- cfg80211_update_known_bss irq/144-iwlwifi-1010 [004] 77.633609: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- cfg80211_update_known_bss irq/144-iwlwifi-1010 [004] 77.769844: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- cfg80211_update_known_bss kworker/u24:1-9 [008] 77.769858: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- cfg80211_update_known_bss irq/144-iwlwifi-1010 [004] 77.880114: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- cfg80211_update_known_bss kworker/u24:6-1448 [005] 77.880129: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- cfg80211_update_known_bss irq/144-iwlwifi-1010 [004] 77.880131: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- cfg80211_update_known_bss kworker/u24:6-1448 [005] 77.880133: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- cfg80211_update_known_bss virtio_gpu-5882 [010] 78.337302: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- context_close virtio_gpu-5882 [010] 78.337303: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- i915_driver_postclose virtio_gpu-5882 [010] 78.346058: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- fence_notify virtio_gpu-5882 [010] 78.346070: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- fence_notify virtio_gpu-5882 [010] 78.346079: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- fence_notify virtio_gpu-5882 [010] 78.346086: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- fence_notify virtio_gpu-5882 [010] 78.346184: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- fence_notify virtio_gpu-5882 [010] 78.346196: function: kvfree_call_rcu <-- fence_notify thanks, - Joel > > I wonder if the queued kwork is executing twice accidentally, or something. > This kernel does have the additional trace patch below, fyi. > > Another thought I have is, if we can just keep the kvfree_rcu() mapped to > call_rcu() via a config option say CONFIG_RCU_LAZY_KFREE, or something. > Because I am personally not much a fan of the kfree_rcu() induced additional > timer wake ups and kworker queue+wakeup which we don't need per-se, if we are > already batching with Lazyfied-call_rcu. Too many moving parts which might > hurt power. > > ---8<----------------------- > > From: Joel Fernandes > Subject: [PATCH] debug: reorder trace_rcu_callback > > Signed-off-by: Joel Fernandes > --- > kernel/rcu/tree.c | 9 +++++---- > 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree.c b/kernel/rcu/tree.c > index 73feb09fd51b..a7c175e9533a 100644 > --- a/kernel/rcu/tree.c > +++ b/kernel/rcu/tree.c > @@ -2978,10 +2978,6 @@ __call_rcu_common(struct rcu_head *head, rcu_callback_t func, bool lazy) > } > > check_cb_ovld(rdp); > - if (rcu_nocb_try_bypass(rdp, head, &was_alldone, flags, lazy)) > - return; // Enqueued onto ->nocb_bypass, so just leave. > - // If no-CBs CPU gets here, rcu_nocb_try_bypass() acquired ->nocb_lock. > - rcu_segcblist_enqueue(&rdp->cblist, head); > if (__is_kvfree_rcu_offset((unsigned long)func)) > trace_rcu_kvfree_callback(rcu_state.name, head, > (unsigned long)func, > @@ -2990,6 +2986,11 @@ __call_rcu_common(struct rcu_head *head, rcu_callback_t func, bool lazy) > trace_rcu_callback(rcu_state.name, head, > rcu_segcblist_n_cbs(&rdp->cblist)); > > + if (rcu_nocb_try_bypass(rdp, head, &was_alldone, flags, lazy)) > + return; // Enqueued onto ->nocb_bypass, so just leave. > + // If no-CBs CPU gets here, rcu_nocb_try_bypass() acquired ->nocb_lock. > + rcu_segcblist_enqueue(&rdp->cblist, head); > + > /* Go handle any RCU core processing required. */ > if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_RCU_NOCB_CPU) && > unlikely(rcu_segcblist_is_offloaded(&rdp->cblist))) { > -- > 2.38.1.273.g43a17bfeac-goog >