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Date:   Sat, 29 Oct 2022 13:05:43 +0300
From:   Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
To:     Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [rft, PATCH v1 4/4] kernel.h: Split out ARRAY_SZIE()
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On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 11:20:10AM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 09:14:29PM +0300, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 07:05:18PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2022 at 06:44:50PM +0300, Alexey Dobriyan wrote:
> > > > > include/linux/array_size.h | 13 +++++++++++++
> > > > 
> > > > All of this is pessimisation unless you're removing
> > > > 
> > > > 	+#include <linux/array_size.h>
> > > > 
> > > > from kernel.h which you aren't doing.
> > > > 
> > > > container_of.h is just as silly.
> > > > 
> > > > kernel.h might need _some_ cleanup (like panic and tainted stuff) which
> > > > is rarely used but ARRAY_SIZE()?
> > > 
> > > Are you suggesting to slow down compilation with inclusion of tons of unneeded
> > > stuff in the zillions of drivers?
> > > 
> > > Or you are talking that we need to abandon most of the headers and combine
> > > everything into kernel.h? I think this is what is silly.
> > 
> > It hard to escape kernel.h so you will be including it anyway.
> 
> It's very important to not include it in the headers.
> 
> And this split helps to it a lot. We have container_of() or array_size() used
> in macros and/or inliners that are usually appears in the headers. And if you
> know what dependency hell means, the kernel.h brings to it a huge mess.
> 
> So, try to be constructive, okay?
> 
> > Unless you delete, say, kstrtox.h from kernel.h, it is pointless busywork.

I'm very constructive.

Parsing 1 define is faster than opening/reading/closing a file to parse
1 define (it's 2 defines because of header guard).

Therefore extracting 1 macro into separate file without obvious future
growth is a pessimisation.

And if you delete #include <array_size.h> from kernel.h and fix all
compile failures (which you aren't doing apparently) backporters will
hate you for life.

I've tried to delete kstrtox.h, and even allnoconfig had dozens of
failures.