Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932959AbXHDTWR (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Aug 2007 15:22:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1760939AbXHDTWC (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Aug 2007 15:22:02 -0400 Received: from mx2.mail.elte.hu ([157.181.151.9]:38832 "EHLO mx2.mail.elte.hu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1760775AbXHDTWA (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Aug 2007 15:22:00 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 21:21:30 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn?= Engel Cc: Jeff Garzik , Linus Torvalds , Peter Zijlstra , linux-mm@kvack.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , miklos@szeredi.hu, akpm@linux-foundation.org, neilb@suse.de, dgc@sgi.com, tomoki.sekiyama.qu@hitachi.com, nikita@clusterfs.com, trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no, yingchao.zhou@gmail.com, richard@rsk.demon.co.uk, david@lang.hm Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/23] per device dirty throttling -v8 Message-ID: <20070804192130.GA25346@elte.hu> References: <20070803123712.987126000@chello.nl> <20070804063217.GA25069@elte.hu> <20070804070737.GA940@elte.hu> <20070804103347.GA1956@elte.hu> <20070804163733.GA31001@elte.hu> <46B4C0A8.1000902@garzik.org> <20070804191205.GA24723@lazybastard.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20070804191205.GA24723@lazybastard.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.14 (2007-02-12) X-ELTE-VirusStatus: clean X-ELTE-SpamScore: 1.0 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: s X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamVersion: ELTE 2.0 X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=1.0 required=5.9 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=no SpamAssassin version=3.0.3 1.0 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.5000] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 732 Lines: 23 * J?rn Engel wrote: > > I actually vote for that. IMO, distros should turn -on- atime > > updates when they know its needed. > > If you mean "relatime" I concur. "noatime" hurts mutt and others > while "relatime" has no known problems, afaics. so ... one app can keep 30,000+ apps hostage? i use Mutt myself, on such a filesystem: /dev/md0 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,user_xattr) and i can see no problems, it notices new mails just fine. Ingo - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/