Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760756AbXHESEd (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:04:33 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752074AbXHESEZ (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:04:25 -0400 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:38551 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751112AbXHESEY (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:04:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/23] per device dirty throttling -v8 From: Arjan van de Ven To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rn?= Engel Cc: Willy Tarreau , Ingo Molnar , Alan Cox , Jeff Garzik , Linus Torvalds , Peter Zijlstra , linux-mm@kvack.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , miklos@szeredi.hu, akpm@linux-foundation.org, neilb@suse.de, dgc@sgi.com, tomoki.sekiyama.qu@hitachi.com, nikita@clusterfs.com, trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no, yingchao.zhou@gmail.com, richard@rsk.demon.co.uk, david@lang.hm In-Reply-To: <20070805141708.GB25753@lazybastard.org> References: <46B4C0A8.1000902@garzik.org> <20070804191205.GA24723@lazybastard.org> <20070804192130.GA25346@elte.hu> <20070804211156.5f600d80@the-village.bc.nu> <20070804202830.GA4538@elte.hu> <20070804210351.GA9784@elte.hu> <20070804225121.5c7b66e0@the-village.bc.nu> <20070805072141.GA4414@elte.hu> <20070805085354.GC6002@1wt.eu> <20070805141708.GB25753@lazybastard.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Organization: Intel International BV Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 11:02:33 -0700 Message-Id: <1186336953.2777.17.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.3 (2.10.3-2.fc7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1333 Lines: 31 On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 16:17 +0200, Jörn Engel wrote: > On Sun, 5 August 2007 10:53:54 +0200, Willy Tarreau wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 05, 2007 at 09:21:41AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote: > > > > > > btw., Mutt does not go boom, i use it myself. It works just fine and > > > notices new mails even on a noatime,nodiratime filesystem. > > > > IIRC, atime is used by mailers and by the shell to detect that new > > mail has arrived and report it only once if there are several intances > > watching the same mbox. > > > > I too use mutt and noatime,nodiratime everywhere (same 10 year-old > > thinko), and the only side effect is that when I have a new mail, > > it is reported in all of my xterms until I read it, clearly something > > I can live with (and sometimes it's even desirable). > > > > In fact, mutt is pretty good at this. It updates atime and ctime itself > > as soon as it opens the mbox, so the shell is happy and only reports > > "you have mail" afterwards. > > For me mutt fails to recognize new mail. And the difference might be > this: but does it work with relatime ? - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/