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[2003:cb:c708:db00:6510:da8d:df40:abbb]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bu12-20020a056000078c00b0023655e51c33sm10027356wrb.4.2022.11.08.01.40.23 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 08 Nov 2022 01:40:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <040542e7-7d1c-4f25-b1ed-459f3c165283@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2022 10:40:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.4.0 Content-Language: en-US To: Tomasz Figa , Hans Verkuil , Marek Szyprowski Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, etnaviv@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Jason Gunthorpe , John Hubbard , Peter Xu , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Andrea Arcangeli , Hugh Dickins , Nadav Amit , Vlastimil Babka , Matthew Wilcox , Mike Kravetz , Muchun Song , Lucas Stach , David Airlie , Oded Gabbay , Arnd Bergmann , Mauro Carvalho Chehab References: <20221107161740.144456-1-david@redhat.com> <20221107161740.144456-17-david@redhat.com> From: David Hildenbrand Organization: Red Hat Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 16/19] mm/frame-vector: remove FOLL_FORCE usage In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 08.11.22 05:45, Tomasz Figa wrote: > Hi David, Hi Tomasz, thanks for looking into this! > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 1:19 AM David Hildenbrand wrote: >> >> FOLL_FORCE is really only for debugger access. According to commit >> 707947247e95 ("media: videobuf2-vmalloc: get_userptr: buffers are always >> writable"), the pinned pages are always writable. > As reference, the cover letter of the series: https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20221107161740.144456-1-david@redhat.com > Actually that patch is only a workaround to temporarily disable > support for read-only pages as they seemed to suffer from some > corruption issues in the retrieved user pages. We expect to support > read-only pages as hardware input after. That said, FOLL_FORCE doesn't > sound like the right thing even in that case, but I don't know the > background behind it being added here in the first place. +Hans > Verkuil +Marek Szyprowski do you happen to remember anything about it? Maybe I mis-interpreted 707947247e95; re-reading it again, I am not quite sure what the actual problem is and how it relates to GUP FOLL_WRITE handling. FOLL_FORCE already was in place before 707947247e95 and should be removed. What I understood is "Just always call vb2_create_framevec() with FOLL_WRITE to always allow writing to the buffers.". If the pinned page is never written to via the obtained GUP reference: * FOLL_WRITE should not be set * FOLL_FORCE should not be set * We should not dirty the page when unpinning If the pinned page may be written to via the obtained GUP reference: * FOLL_WRITE should be set * FOLL_FORCE should not be set * We should dirty the page when unpinning If the function is called for both, we should think about doing it conditional based on a "write" variable, like pre-707947247e95 did. @Hans, any insight? -- Thanks, David / dhildenb