Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S934810AbXHGPn6 (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Aug 2007 11:43:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754447AbXHGPns (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Aug 2007 11:43:48 -0400 Received: from srv5.dvmed.net ([207.36.208.214]:49605 "EHLO mail.dvmed.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753142AbXHGPnr (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Aug 2007 11:43:47 -0400 Message-ID: <46B89331.5020305@garzik.org> Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:43:45 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (X11/20070719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Bottomley CC: Andrew Morton , Linus Torvalds , linux-scsi , linux-kernel Subject: Re: [GIT PATCH] scsi bug fixes for 2.6.23-rc2 References: <1186248703.3439.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1186458941.6637.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20070807001429.f8cb3b22.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <1186496712.3414.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <46B88B91.4050703@garzik.org> <1186501124.3414.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1186501124.3414.32.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin version 3.1.9 on srv5.dvmed.net summary: Content analysis details: (-4.3 points, 5.0 required) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1351 Lines: 35 James Bottomley wrote: > It followed the rule of trying to stabilise outside mainline ... it just > didn't get sufficient integration testing. IMO it's self-evident that pushing to a git tree few ever see or test is not following the spirit of the rule. In practice, stabilize outside mainline implies -mm integration, in addition to whatever else a maintainer does specific to their subsystem. >>> I wouldn't call bsg half baked ... it was very carefully matured. There >>> were just a few integration issues. >> I wouldn't call bsg carefully matured, if in addition to not really >> gracing -mm with its presence, the userland API structure is still >> getting changes on July 29, 2007 (0c6a89ba640d28e1dcd7fd1a217d2cfb92ae4953). > > This would be the ABI change I talked about in the previous emails. > > So would this problem have been fixed simply by adding the missing block > tree to -mm? IMO 70% of the problem would be solved by that. It wouldn't have solved the late ABI change though (which was first posted in earlier form on April 4th, and so, had time for integration). Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/