Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S935051AbXHGQbW (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Aug 2007 12:31:22 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754244AbXHGQbN (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Aug 2007 12:31:13 -0400 Received: from hancock.steeleye.com ([71.30.118.248]:44395 "EHLO hancock.sc.steeleye.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751598AbXHGQbM (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Aug 2007 12:31:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [GIT PATCH] scsi bug fixes for 2.6.23-rc2 From: James Bottomley To: Jeff Garzik Cc: Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , linux-scsi , linux-kernel In-Reply-To: <46B89BE7.8090903@garzik.org> References: <1186248703.3439.20.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1186458941.6637.44.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1186497106.3414.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <46B89BE7.8090903@garzik.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 11:31:11 -0500 Message-Id: <1186504271.3414.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.3 (2.10.3-2.fc7) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1439 Lines: 33 On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 12:20 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote: > James Bottomley wrote: > > I'm arguing that a too strict an interpretation of bugfix only post -rc1 > > will damage feature stabilisation. Please think carefully about this. > > If we go out in a released kernel with a problematic user space ABI, we > > end up being committed to it forever. > > > IMO you're going off on your own tangent. Linus never singled out bsg > (far from it, in fact, since bsg was not a major LOC contributor) or > declared ABI-related fixes verboten. > > I don't think anyone wants to release a userspace ABI with problems, > since we all know that's basically locked in stone once its in a > mainline release. > > AFAICS his main complaint was he felt your push was a big honking huge > change, late in the game, that included obvious non-fixes. And it was. > lpfc was probably the biggest part of that, not bsg, and it's pretty > clear such a big lpfc update should have gone in when the merge window > was open. The [non-lpfc] cleanups were also not -rc2 material. I think you'll find that part of the complaint was addressed in the first part of the email which you didn't quote. James - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/