Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:41:58 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:41:48 -0500 Received: from dsl-213-023-038-110.arcor-ip.net ([213.23.38.110]:49669 "EHLO starship.berlin") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:41:34 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Daniel Phillips To: Larry McVoy , "David S. Miller" Subject: Re: SMP/cc Cluster description Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 20:42:05 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] Cc: davidel@xmailserver.org, rusty@rustcorp.com.au, lm@bitmover.com, Martin.Bligh@us.ibm.com, riel@conectiva.com.br, lars.spam@nocrew.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, hps@intermeta.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20011206135224.12c4b123.rusty@rustcorp.com.au> <20011205.235617.23011309.davem@redhat.com> <20011206000216.B18034@work.bitmover.com> In-Reply-To: <20011206000216.B18034@work.bitmover.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On December 6, 2001 09:02 am, Larry McVoy wrote: > On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 11:56:17PM -0800, David S. Miller wrote: > > These lockless algorithms, instructions like CAS, DCAS, "infinite > > consensus number", it's all crap. You have to seperate out the access > > areas amongst different cpus so they don't collide, and none of these > > mechanisms do that. > > Err, Dave, that's *exactly* the point of the ccCluster stuff. You get > all that seperation for every data structure for free. Think about > it a bit. Aren't you going to feel a little bit stupid if you do all > this work, one object at a time, and someone can come along and do the > whole OS in one swoop? Yeah, I'm spouting crap, it isn't that easy, > but it is much easier than the route you are taking. What I don't get after looking at your material, is how you intend to do the locking. Sharing a mmap across OS instances is fine, but how do processes on the two different OS's avoid stepping on each other when they access the same file? -- Daniel - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/