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Date:   Wed, 9 Nov 2022 21:05:33 +0530
From:   Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org>
To:     Vidya Sagar <vidyas@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V1 0/4] GPIO based PCIe Hot-Plug support
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On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 08:16:06AM +0530, Vidya Sagar wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/10/2022 11:44 AM, Vidya Sagar wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 10/4/2022 9:34 AM, Vidya Sagar wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 10/3/2022 11:51 PM, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Monday 03 October 2022 13:09:49 Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, Oct 01, 2022 at 05:50:07PM -0600, Jonathan Derrick wrote:
> > > > > > On 10/1/2022 10:20 AM, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > Would not it better to rather synthesise PCIe Slot
> > > > > > > Capabilities support
> > > > > > > in your PCIe Root Port device (e.g. via
> > > > > > > pci-bridge-emul.c) and then let
> > > > > > > existing PCI hotplug code to take care for hotplugging? Because it
> > > > > > > already implements all required stuff for
> > > > > > > re-scanning, registering and
> > > > > > > unregistering PCIe devices for Root Ports with Slot
> > > > > > > Capabilities. And I
> > > > > > > think that there is no need to have just another (GPIO based)
> > > > > > > implementation of PCI hotplug.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I did that a few years ago (rejected), but can attest to
> > > > > > the robustness of
> > > > > > the pcie hotplug code on non-hotplug slots.
> > > > > > https://lwn.net/Articles/811988/
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think the thread is here:
> > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/1581120007-5280-1-git-send-email-jonathan.derrick@intel.com/
> > > > > 
> > > > > and I'm sorry that my response came across as "rejected".  I intended
> > > > > it as "this is good ideas and good work and we should keep going".
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bjorn
> > > > 
> > > > Nice! So we have consensus that this is a good idea. Anyway, if you need
> > > > help with designing something here, please let me know as I have good
> > > > understanding of all (just two) consumers of pci-bridge-emul.c driver.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks all for your comments.
> > > 
> > > I would like to hear from Bjorn / Lorenzo if the design of the
> > > current patch series is fine at a high level or I should explore
> > > emulating the root port's configuration space to fake slot
> > > config/control registers (which in turn depend on the hotplug GPIO
> > > interrupt & state to update Presence Detect related bits in Slot
> > > status register) and use the PCIe native Hot-plug framework itself
> > > to carry out with enabling the Hot-plug functionality?
> > 
> > Bjorn / Lorenzo,
> > Could you please take time to comment on the discussion happened here
> > and the right approach to be followed?
> 
> I'm really sorry to bug you on this, but would like to hear your comments on
> the approach to be taken. So, I would really like to hear your take on this.
> 

Since Bjorn already expressed his good will about the approach, I think you
can just proceed with the emulation layer. I don't think there will be any
controversy.

Thanks,
Mani

> Thanks,
> Vidya Sagar
> 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Vidya Sagar
> > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Vidya Sagar
> > > 
> > > 

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