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Date:   Thu, 10 Nov 2022 01:51:17 +0200
From:   Aaro Koskinen <aaro.koskinen@iki.fi>
To:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
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Subject: Re: Deprecating and removing SLOB
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On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 01:48:35AM +0200, Aaro Koskinen wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 09, 2022 at 01:39:12PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 12:56 PM Paul Cercueil <paul@crapouillou.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > It worked fine on some boards, but on others it had about a 25% chance
> > > of booting, and 75% chance of hanging at boot. I tried printk-debugging
> > > it, and was coming to the conclusion that it's memory corruption of
> > > some sort.
> > >
> > > Then I switched to SLUB and all the problems are gone. Same with SLAB.
> > >
> > > So while I can't say for sure that SLOB is broken (it might be
> > > triggering a bug somewhere else), I am highly suspicious that it is.
> > 
> > I have this distinct memory of having seen other reports like this,
> > but my google-fu is not strong enough to back that up.
> > 
> > There definitely has been recurring noise about SLOB issues. There's a
> > reason people have wanted to remove it for years and years.
> 
> Some of the reported SLOB issues have been actually real driver bugs,
> that go unnoticed when SLUB/SLAB are used (unless perhaps debug stuff
> is enabled). I'm not saying kernel should keep SLUB, but it's good at
                                                 ^^^^
                                                 SLOB, sorry for a typo.

> failing early when there is a bug. See e.g. commit 120ee599b5bf ("staging:
> octeon-usb: prevent memory corruption")
> 
> A.