Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S938140AbXHGWIQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Aug 2007 18:08:16 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S967051AbXHGVtw (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Aug 2007 17:49:52 -0400 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:50114 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S967246AbXHGVtv (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Aug 2007 17:49:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2007 23:49:47 +0200 From: Pavel Machek To: Len Brown Cc: trenn@suse.de, Andi Kleen , Alan Cox , Andrew Morton , Knut Petersen , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mjg59@srcf.ucam.org, vojtech@suse.cz Subject: Re: 2.6.22 regression: thermal trip points Message-ID: <20070807214947.GB4413@elf.ucw.cz> References: <46B1988C.3090302@t-online.de> <200708031459.07108.lenb@kernel.org> <20070806095504.GA1934@elf.ucw.cz> <200708071458.45687.lenb@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200708071458.45687.lenb@kernel.org> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060126 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1517 Lines: 35 On Tue 2007-08-07 14:58:45, Len Brown wrote: > On Monday 06 August 2007 05:55, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > For the > > > upstream kernel, I think it is more appropriate to expose and fix > > > the fundamental problems. For distro kernels, I'm less concerned > > > if you hide bugs instead of fixing them. > > > > This is okay as long as you are willing to work around the fundamental > > problems in kernel. You are unable to _fix_ them. They are broken > > BIOSes. > > The thing Linux needs to figure out is why Windows doesn't > get confused by what Linux claims to be broken BIOS. Why do you assume that Windows work? Yes, they probably will not have 'machine runs at 50% speed' problem, but I'd be very surprised if critical shutdown worked properly on more than 90% of notebooks.... > So far I have one live sighting to be addressed by > the upstream kernel (from Knut). I'm certainly looking > forward to the 2nd live sighting... Ok, I guess I should steal that old xe3 I was talking about... Vojtech, could I have that machine from table football room for a few experiments? I keep using it as counterexample. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/