Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:18:11 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:17:59 -0500 Received: from pizda.ninka.net ([216.101.162.242]:41866 "EHLO pizda.ninka.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:16:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 12:15:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <20011206.121554.106436207.davem@redhat.com> To: lm@bitmover.com Cc: phillips@bonn-fries.net, davidel@xmailserver.org, rusty@rustcorp.com.au, Martin.Bligh@us.ibm.com, riel@conectiva.com.br, lars.spam@nocrew.org, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, hps@intermeta.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: SMP/cc Cluster description From: "David S. Miller" In-Reply-To: <20011206121004.F27589@work.bitmover.com> In-Reply-To: <20011206115338.E27589@work.bitmover.com> <20011206121004.F27589@work.bitmover.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on Emacs 21.0 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Larry McVoy Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 12:10:04 -0800 Huh? Of course not, they'd use mutexes in a mmap-ed file, which uses the hardware's coherency. No locks in the vfs or fs, that's all done in the mmap/page fault path for sure, but once the data is mapped you aren't dealing with the file system at all. We're talking about two things. Once the data is MMAP'd, sure things are coherent just like on any other SMP, for the user. But HOW DID YOU GET THERE? That is the question you are avoiding. How do I look up "/etc/passwd" in the filesystem on a ccCluster? How does OS image 1 see the same "/etc/passwd" as OS image 2? If you aren't getting rid of this locking, what is the point? That is what we are trying to talk about. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/