Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 21:38:06 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 21:37:56 -0500 Received: from pizda.ninka.net ([216.101.162.242]:26497 "EHLO pizda.ninka.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 21:37:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 18:37:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <20011206.183709.71088955.davem@redhat.com> To: lm@bitmover.com Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, phillips@bonn-fries.net, davidel@xmailserver.org, rusty@rustcorp.com.au, Martin.Bligh@us.ibm.com, riel@conectiva.com.br, lars.spam@nocrew.org, hps@intermeta.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: SMP/cc Cluster description From: "David S. Miller" In-Reply-To: <20011206161744.V27589@work.bitmover.com> In-Reply-To: <20011206153257.T27589@work.bitmover.com> <20011206.154735.71088809.davem@redhat.com> <20011206161744.V27589@work.bitmover.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.0 on Emacs 21.0 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Larry McVoy Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 16:17:44 -0800 There are /gproc, /gtmp, and /gdev which are in the global namespace and do for the cluster what / does for a regular machine. And /getc, which is where my /getc/passwd is going to be. We can go around and around on this and the end result will be that I will have narrowed the locking problem down to the point that only the processes which are actually using the resource have to participate in the locking. In a traditional SMP OS, all processes have to participate. We can split up name spaces today with Al Viro's namespace infrastructure. But frankly for the cases where scalability matters, like a http server, they are all going at the same files in a global file space. I still think ccClusters don't solve any new problems in the locking space. "I get rid of it by putting people on different filesystems" is not an answer which is unique to ccClusters, current systems can do that. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/