Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S938345AbXHJPLZ (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:11:25 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S935111AbXHJPK1 (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:10:27 -0400 Received: from z2.cat.iki.fi ([212.16.98.133]:59859 "EHLO z2.cat.iki.fi" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S937746AbXHJPKY (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:10:24 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:10:14 +0300 From: Matti Aarnio To: Vlad Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Noatime vs relatime Message-ID: <20070810151014.GT6372@mea-ext.zmailer.org> References: <233939.75965.qm@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <233939.75965.qm@web54403.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1333 Lines: 36 On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 07:26:46AM -0700, Vlad wrote: ... > "Warning: Atime will be disabled by default in future kernel versions, > but you will still be able to turn it on when configuring the kernel." > > This should give a heads-up to the 0.001% of people who still use > atime so that they know to customize this option or start using modern > file-monitoring techniques like inotify. NO for two reasons: - atime semantics are just fine in server environments - inotify IS NOT scalable to millions of files, nor to situations where we want to check alteration weeks or months after the fact In reality I would perhaps prefer mount-behaviour being altered from 'by default do atime' to 'by default do noatime. There MUST be an easy way to tell system that "yes, I want to track last accesstime." I did recently an embedded Linux PC system where the entire system disk is a single Compact Flash -card. I tried to play with noatime option, but the system still kept writing things, and thus I had to do full and somewhat drastic read-only. > Vlad /Matti Aarnio - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/