Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758749AbXHNMcy (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:32:54 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752337AbXHNMcm (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:32:42 -0400 Received: from phunq.net ([64.81.85.152]:49935 "EHLO moonbase.phunq.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751993AbXHNMck (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:32:40 -0400 From: Daniel Phillips To: Evgeniy Polyakov Subject: Re: Block device throttling [Re: Distributed storage.] Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 05:32:29 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.5 Cc: Jens Axboe , netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra References: <20070731171347.GA14267@2ka.mipt.ru> <200708140435.44979.phillips@phunq.net> <20070814115037.GA2958@2ka.mipt.ru> In-Reply-To: <20070814115037.GA2958@2ka.mipt.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200708140532.31378.phillips@phunq.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1709 Lines: 40 On Tuesday 14 August 2007 04:50, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote: > On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 04:35:43AM -0700, Daniel Phillips (phillips@phunq.net) wrote: > > On Tuesday 14 August 2007 04:30, Evgeniy Polyakov wrote: > > > > And it will not solve the deadlock problem in general. (Maybe > > > > it works for your virtual device, but I wonder...) If the > > > > virtual device allocates memory during generic_make_request > > > > then the memory needs to be throttled. > > > > > > Daniel, if device process bio by itself, it has a limit and thus > > > it will wait in generic_make_request() > > > > What will make it wait? > > gneric_make_request() for given block device. Not good enough, that only makes one thread wait. Look here: http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/8/13/788 An unlimited number of threads can come in, each consuming resources of the virtual device, and violating the throttling rules. The throttling of the virtual device must begin in generic_make_request and last to ->endio. You release the throttle of the virtual device at the point you remap the bio to an underlying device, which you have convinced yourself is ok, but it is not. You seem to miss the fact that whatever resources the virtual device has allocated are no longer protected by the throttle count *of the virtual device*, or you do not see why that is a bad thing. It is a very bad thing, roughly like leaving some shared data outside a spin_lock/unlock. Regards, Daniel - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/