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[2603:800c:1a02:1bae:a7fa:157f:969a:4cde]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s1-20020a63f041000000b0045ff216a0casm5578797pgj.3.2022.12.12.12.15.08 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 12 Dec 2022 12:15:09 -0800 (PST) Sender: Tejun Heo Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:15:07 -1000 From: Tejun Heo To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, bristot@redhat.com, vschneid@redhat.com, ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org, martin.lau@kernel.org, joshdon@google.com, brho@google.com, pjt@google.com, derkling@google.com, haoluo@google.com, dvernet@meta.com, dschatzberg@meta.com, dskarlat@cs.cmu.edu, riel@surriel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/31] sched: Add sched_class->reweight_task() Message-ID: References: <20221130082313.3241517-1-tj@kernel.org> <20221130082313.3241517-6-tj@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 09:11:36PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > Hurmph.. this further propagate the existing problem of thinking that > > > 'prio' is a useful concept in general (it isn't). > > > > I'm not quite following. Can you please expand on why prio isn't a generally > > useful concept? > > The whole fixed vs dynamic priority scheduling thing. Specifically > SCHED_DEADLINE implements a dynamic priority scheme using the sporadic > task model which just doesn't map well to this single prio value > (notably every SCHED_DEADLINE task has prio -1, making it impossible to > order SCHED_DEADLINE tasks based on this). I see, so the expressive power isn't sufficient to cover some use cases. Yeah, I mean, it's limited and we can add whatever that's necessary but given that there are many use cases that make use of priorities, I don't think SCX can skip supporting it. Thanks. -- tejun