Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1764176AbXHNWf0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:35:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752839AbXHNWfB (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:35:01 -0400 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:40787 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753416AbXHNWe7 (ORCPT ); Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:34:59 -0400 Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:42:06 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: Andi Kleen Cc: Hajime Inoue , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: System call interposition/unprotecting the table Message-ID: <20070814234206.76121d02@the-village.bc.nu> In-Reply-To: References: <20070813180535.vo36rcevi80s0c4c@www.ccsl.carleton.ca> <20070814000956.7c8929dd@the-village.bc.nu> <46C1E5F5.9050702@ccsl.carleton.ca> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 866 Lines: 23 > So even with Alan's hypervisor support the whole thing would be still > quite holey. The argument of raising the bar also doesn't seem very Its materially harder, especially with the hypervisor. > convincing to me, because attackers reuse code too and it's enough > when someone publishes such code once, then they can cut'n'paste > it into any exploits forever. Then you fix the specific case and the game continues. > In general the .data protection is only considered a debugging > feature. I don't know why Fedora enables it in their production > kernels. That would be because we think you are wrong 8) Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/