Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S934787AbXHOR72 (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:59:28 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1760574AbXHOR7S (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:59:18 -0400 Received: from web52512.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.48.195]:20861 "HELO web52512.mail.re2.yahoo.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1760516AbXHOR7R (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:59:17 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Vx9V+KlGlXWFnsrK3ZoDizjNR7z7DcZYQ13XUdj4gliYO73hLlPublSxuLFy6aAA1Ucuo3HPBVrDkIjfDxjeHtawI4Ov/hJtYmzjcdqGCALJQhZbK1xwNYHqi0etTXd+vXSwFrdS9RicLZl6UHZWVnyXS+0d20Wgg3Ghkr4qlT0=; X-YMail-OSG: RRIZqfYVM1kehqR6Vh0idJU1UEVYo9CMqKpqv8qZLmWHanus5rP8uXHueAAsMBfWp7I2mY4iMwuIuB9Xbuu7U7GJDlBRHlsjN7EcILTjDpZ6rjGovr48WhSlewAc7NSAqTA742SjsmAVlQ-- Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:59:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Perkel Subject: Re: Thinking outside the box on file systems To: Kyle Moffett Cc: Michael Tharp , alan , LKML Kernel , Lennart Sorensen In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-ID: <631385.29200.qm@web52512.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2254 Lines: 67 --- Kyle Moffett wrote: > On Aug 15, 2007, at 13:19:16, Marc Perkel wrote: > > One of the problems with the Unix/Linux world is > that your minds > > are locked into this one model. In order to do it > right it requires > > the mental discipline to break out of that. > > The major thing that you are missing is that this > "one model" has > been very heavily tested over the years. People > understand it, know > how to use it and write software for it, and grok > its limitations. > There's also a vast amount of *existing* code that > you can't just > "deprecate" overnight; the world just doesn't work > that way. The > real way to get there (IE: a new model) from here > (IE: the old model) > is the way all Linux development is done with a lot > of sensible easy- > to-understand changes and refactorings. > > With that said, if you actually want to sit down and > start writing > *code* for your model, go ahead. If it turns out to > be better than > our existing model then I owe you a bottle of your > favorite beverage. > > Cheers, > Kyle Moffett > When one thinks outside the box one has to think about evolving beyond what you are used to. When I moved beyond DOS I have to give up the idea of 8.3 file names. The idea here is to come up with a model that can emulate the existing system for backwards compatibility. The concept behind my model is to create a new layer where you can do ANYTHING with file names and permissions and create models that emulate Linux, DOS, Windows, Mac, or anything else you can dream of. Then you can create a Linux/Windows/Mac template to emulate what you are used to. Marc Perkel Junk Email Filter dot com http://www.junkemailfilter.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/