Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757974AbXHPMZZ (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:25:25 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753983AbXHPMZN (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:25:13 -0400 Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:42078 "EHLO out2.smtp.messagingengine.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753607AbXHPMZK (ORCPT ); Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:25:10 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: BTKaHzxxmYdEEMv16TIlS5PVOawVYUWdP2vM9K3ij5Sg 1187267109 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:25:06 -0300 From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" Cc: lenb@kernel.org, Hugh Dickins , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Richard Hughes Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] ACPI: thinkpad-acpi: change thinkpad-acpi input default and kconfig help Message-ID: <20070816122506.GA5081@khazad-dum.debian.net> References: <11868017142597-git-send-email-hmh@hmh.eng.br> <11868017143582-git-send-email-hmh@hmh.eng.br> <20070811180602.GA17843@mellanox.co.il> <20070811221625.GB27761@khazad-dum.debian.net> <20070816073053.GA19833@mellanox.co.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070816073053.GA19833@mellanox.co.il> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1024D/1CDB0FE3 5422 5C61 F6B7 06FB 7E04 3738 EE25 DE3F 1CDB 0FE3 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1918 Lines: 37 On Thu, 16 Aug 2007, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote: > > I *can* make the compile-time option a module parameter, though. That > > wouldn't be much of a problem, and the compile-time option would select the > > default for that parameter, but it would be easier to override it at run > > time (you can already do it, but it requires reprogramming various driver > > parameters using sysfs and the input device IOCTLs). > > > > Would a module parameter address enough of your concerns? Kconfig would > > only set the default for that parameter, then... > > I really think modifying defaults it not a great idea. > What about adding a writeable module parameter? > Then new HAL would just write to /sysfs/module/thinkpad/parameters/interface_version to > switch to new behaviour. Nah. This thing regulates what the module has to do when it loads and inits the firmware, and the whole point of the new behaviour is to get userspace to be as hands' off as possible, so that we can auto-tune things better in-kernel, without a need to worry about HAL and friends overwriting local admin configurations needlessly. I will probably have to do something like the strict versioned interfaces of wireless extensions, I think. It really is a case of a deprecation of current userland interfaces done sanely. Right now I am thinking about giving userland two kernel releases before I change the default interface level, and one to two years to remove the older ones. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/