Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756885AbXHRRVf (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:21:35 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751296AbXHRRV0 (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:21:26 -0400 Received: from waste.org ([66.93.16.53]:50334 "EHLO waste.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750805AbXHRRV0 (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Aug 2007 13:21:26 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 12:22:26 -0500 From: Matt Mackall To: Fengguang Wu Cc: Andrew Morton , Jeremy Fitzhardinge , David Rientjes , John Berthels , Nick Piggin , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] maps: /proc//pmaps interface - memory maps in granularity of pages Message-ID: <20070818172225.GR30556@waste.org> References: <20070816220516.782145952@mail.ustc.edu.cn> <20070816220849.472883642@mail.ustc.edu.cn> <20070817023846.GJ30556@waste.org> <20070817064727.GA6723@mail.ustc.edu.cn> <20070817165808.GM30556@waste.org> <20070818024831.GA7856@mail.ustc.edu.cn> <20070818064042.GQ30556@waste.org> <20070818084531.GB5277@mail.ustc.edu.cn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070818084531.GB5277@mail.ustc.edu.cn> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1767 Lines: 47 On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 04:45:31PM +0800, Fengguang Wu wrote: > Matt, > > On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 01:40:42AM -0500, Matt Mackall wrote: > > > - On memory pressure, > > > - as VSZ goes up, RSS will be bounded by physical memory. > > > So VSZ:RSS ratio actually goes up with memory pressure. > > > > And yes. > > > > But that's not what I'm talking about. You're likely to have more > > holes in your ranges with memory pressure as things that aren't active > > get paged or swapped out and back in. And because we're walking the > > LRU more rapidly, we'll flip over a lot of the active bits more often > > which will mean more output. > > > > > - page range is a good unit of locality. They are more likely to be > > > reclaimed as a whole. So (RSS:page_ranges) wouldn't degrade as much. > > > > There is that. The relative magnitude of the different effects is > > unclear. But it is clear that the worst case for pmap is much worse > > > than pagemap (two lines per page of RSS?). > It's one line per page. No sane app will make vmas proliferate. Sane apps are few and far between. > So let's talk about the worst case. > > pagemap's data set size is determined by VSZ. > 4GB VSZ means 1M PFNs, hence 8MB pagemap data. > > pmaps's data set size is bounded by RSS hence physical memory. > 4GB RSS means up to 1M page ranges, hence ~20M pmaps data. > Not too bad :) Hmmm, I've been misreading the output. What does it do with nonlinear VMAs? -- Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/