Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757896AbXHRSU3 (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:20:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756711AbXHRSUR (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:20:17 -0400 Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk ([195.92.253.2]:50819 "EHLO ZenIV.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756625AbXHRSUM (ORCPT ); Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:20:12 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:19:59 +0100 From: Al Viro To: Marc Perkel Cc: Kyle Moffett , Phillip Susi , Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, Michael Tharp , alan , LKML Kernel , Lennart Sorensen , Al Viro Subject: Re: Thinking outside the box on file systems Message-ID: <20070818181959.GP21089@ftp.linux.org.uk> References: <675612.55480.qm@web52503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <675612.55480.qm@web52503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1508 Lines: 29 On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 09:45:54AM -0700, Marc Perkel wrote: > Linux isn't going to make progress when people try to > figure out how to make something NOT work rather than > to make something work. So if you are going to put > effort into this then why not try to figure out how to > get around the issues you are raising rather than to > attack the idea as unsolvable. It's your idea; _you_ get to defend it against the problems found by reviewers. And whining about negativity is the wrong way to do that. Look at it that way: there is science and there is feel-good woo. The former depends on peer review. The latter depends on not having it and vague handwaving is the classical way of avoiding it. So are the claims of being a "visionary" and accusing critics of being uncooperative reactionaries conspiring against the progress. So far you are doing very poorly; if you want somebody else to join you in experimenting with these ideas, you are acting in a very inefficient way (and if you don't want anybody else, you'll obviously have to deal with details yourself anyway). Asserting that critics should patch the holes in your handwaving is unlikely to impress anybody; arrogance is not in short supply around here and yours is not even original. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/