Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752342AbXHSHBV (ORCPT ); Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:01:21 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750711AbXHSHBM (ORCPT ); Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:01:12 -0400 Received: from mga03.intel.com ([143.182.124.21]:18142 "EHLO mga03.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750709AbXHSHBK (ORCPT ); Sun, 19 Aug 2007 03:01:10 -0400 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.19,280,1183359600"; d="scan'208";a="265103573" From: "Sean Hefty" To: "'David Miller'" , Cc: , , , References: <20070817.170033.63993876.davem@davemloft.net> <20070817.234405.66176298.davem@davemloft.net> Subject: RE: [ofa-general] Re: [PATCH RFC] RDMA/CMA: Allocate PS_TCP portsfrom the host TCP port space. Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 00:01:07 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c7e22e$b7b90f00$29c8180a@amr.corp.intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20070817.234405.66176298.davem@davemloft.net> Thread-Index: AcfhYy/qP0RatVlFTpKHwCY8j0n61wAxKRiQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Aug 2007 07:01:07.0900 (UTC) FILETIME=[B78A0FC0:01C7E22E] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1741 Lines: 35 >Just be realistic and accept that RDMA is a point in time solution, >and like any other such technology takes flexibility away from users. All technologies are just point in time solutions. While management is important, shouldn't the customers decide how important it is relative to their problems? Whether some future technology will be better matters little if a problem needs to be solved today. >If you can't see that this is the future, you have my condolences. >Because frankly, the signs are all around that this is where things >are going. Adding a bazillion cores to a processor doesn't do a thing to help memory bandwidth. Millions of Infiniband ports are in operation today. Over 25% of the top 500 supercomputers use Infiniband. The formation of the OpenFabrics Alliance was pushed and has been continuously funded by an RDMA customer - the US National Labs. RDMA technologies are backed by Cisco, IBM, Intel, QLogic, Sun, Voltaire, Mellanox, NetApp, AMD, Dell, HP, Oracle, Unisys, Emulex, Hitachi, NEC, Fujitsu, LSI, SGI, Sandia, and at least two dozen other companies. IDC expects Infiniband adapter revenue to triple between 2006 and 2011, and switch revenue to increase six-fold (combined revenues of 1 billion). Customers see real benefits using channel based architectures. Do all customers need it? Of course not. Is it a niche? Yes, but I would say that about any 10+ gig network. That doesn't mean that it hasn't become essential for some customers. - Sean - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/