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Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 23:10:35 +0300
From: Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>
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To: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
CC: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
       Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
       kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
       Laurent Vivier <Laurent.Vivier@bull.net>,
       linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
       virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
       cotte@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: List stripping out cc's
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Jeff Garzik wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>> Heiko Carstens wrote:
>>>>  The only thing remotely relevant in the list config is that
>>>> 'Filter out  duplicate messages to list members (if possible)' is
>>>> set as a default for  new members.  Maybe this means that if a cc
>>>> is also part of the list, that  cc is stripped (which seems a wierd
>>>> implementation; I'd have expected that  cc be kept and just one
>>>> copy sent out).
>>>>
>>>>  Anybody have a clue?
>>>>     
>>>
>>> I got also removed when I was cc'ed. IIRC that started when I
>>> subscribed to
>>> the list. So it looks like people who are subscribed to the list get
>>> removed from the cc list.
>>> That's very annoying btw. ;)
>>>   
>>
>> I think I see what is happening.  The list gets a message that you
>> are copied on.  It sees you have opted not to receive duplicates, it
>> strips you from the cc list, since it knows that you will receive
>> another copy by direct routing (outside the list).
>
> Well, there is also /quite/ the problem with the Mail-Followup-To
> header, which causes most mailers to ignore the preferences of the
> community in favor of the preferences of the message author -- which
> totally screws up traditional To/CC handling on LKML.
>

Sorry, this was about kvm-devel, not lkml -- I should have taken
linux-kernel off the cc list here to avoid increasing confusion. 
Somehow that felt wrong in an email about the evils of stripping out the
cc list.

I don't think there's an issue with M-F-T: here.

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