Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760250AbXHTPaZ (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:30:25 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756231AbXHTPaO (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:30:14 -0400 Received: from embla.aitel.hist.no ([158.38.50.22]:42536 "EHLO embla.aitel.hist.no" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751373AbXHTPaN (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:30:13 -0400 Message-ID: <46C9B2A9.1010904@aitel.hist.no> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:26:33 +0200 From: Helge Hafting User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070329) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marc Perkel CC: Brennan Ashton , Nix , Al Viro , Kyle Moffett , Phillip Susi , Michael Tharp , LKML Kernel , Lennart Sorensen , Al Viro Subject: Re: Thinking outside the box on file systems References: <465458.84259.qm@web52505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <465458.84259.qm@web52505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1928 Lines: 54 Marc Perkel wrote: > What's the point? People are openly hostile to new > ideas here. I started out nice and laid out my ideas > and you have a bunch of morons who attack anything > new. People here are not hostile to any new idea. They are generally hostile to anyone who suggest some "improvement" that he wants others to actually implement. Because that is acting like a boss, and you're not the boss here. Also - what do you expect when you bring an idea and say "well, don't look at what might go wrong, that's just limitations of the existing parts of linux?" Sure, everybody can overlook how your ideas don't fit into current linux - but then they have nothing more to say. What people here do is to look at new ideas/patches, and point out problems with them. When there are no more problems left, the patch is applied and linux improves. If we're not to point out problems with your ideas, then they can't be used in linux. That is not hostility, but how linux development works. Mostly people try to save you from doing unnecessary work - so you don't go and implement a flawed filesystem that will be rejected immediately when you show up with the patch. Shooting down bad ideas saves tremendous amounts of work, killing an idea at the discussion stage means the idea never got to the much more labor-intensive implementation stage. This don't mean that all new ideas are killed, only the bad ones. If you want your ideas accepted, you'll have to come up with something that isn't flawed, that is well planned, not just a bunch of "well - we could do *that* perhaps" but then it turns out that *that* idea was flawed as well. Helge Hafting Helge Hafting - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/