Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758673AbXHTTyT (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:54:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752659AbXHTTyG (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:54:06 -0400 Received: from 41-052.adsl.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.41.52]:34240 "EHLO mail.esperi.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752856AbXHTTyE (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:54:04 -0400 To: Helge Hafting Cc: Marc Perkel , Brennan Ashton , Al Viro , Kyle Moffett , Phillip Susi , Michael Tharp , LKML Kernel , Lennart Sorensen Subject: Re: Thinking outside the box on file systems References: <465458.84259.qm@web52505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <46C9B2A9.1010904@aitel.hist.no> From: Nix Emacs: the prosecution rests its case. Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:52:45 +0100 In-Reply-To: <46C9B2A9.1010904@aitel.hist.no> (Helge Hafting's message of "Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:26:33 +0200") Message-ID: <87tzqum19u.fsf@hades.wkstn.nix> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-DCC-CTc-dcc2-Metrics: hades 1031; Body=9 Fuz1=9 Fuz2=9 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1219 Lines: 25 On 20 Aug 2007, Helge Hafting stated: > Shooting down bad ideas saves tremendous amounts of work, > killing an idea at the discussion stage means the idea never > got to the much more labor-intensive implementation stage. > > This don't mean that all new ideas are killed, only the bad ones. Even the good ones pretty much never start out perfect[1]. It always takes some criticism and fixing before the code is right, let alone the design. (Of course part of the problem with this idea is that it was so vague that the only problems there *could* be with it were huge gaping ones: you can't have subtle problems with an idea with no subtle elements. Unfortunately it had a lot of those, and fixing them without junking the whole idea would be hard. No, I haven't thought about how to do it: Marc might like to, though, what with it being his idea and all.) [1] except mingo's. mingo has the Perfect Design Mojo. How this came to pass, mere mortals may not speculate. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/