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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id k9-20020a056402048900b00483c6dd461esi25031435edv.203.2023.01.05.12.15.09; Thu, 05 Jan 2023 12:15:23 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@kernel.org header.s=k20201202 header.b=bCCbo3Fz; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S235598AbjAET2J (ORCPT + 55 others); Thu, 5 Jan 2023 14:28:09 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:53628 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S235954AbjAET1Y (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jan 2023 14:27:24 -0500 Received: from dfw.source.kernel.org (dfw.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4641:c500::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13ABF1DF39 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2023 11:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dfw.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6102C61BE9 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2023 19:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9AEABC433EF; Thu, 5 Jan 2023 19:22:31 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=k20201202; t=1672946551; bh=uDTXg//jnhC1cEEdsL2GkEsxKCTxHUqxIHNt0OO9yE8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=bCCbo3FzMEXkDFGFnYfnDDzLZ2JFrFAcSAU5KhvphE6lzY3VGW4zqsaSRlWz/gs0E 4ermUfHut3e0bY+f0oSVUdCOyJyTLGXHBMCGJ4ZmVTX0Sx2XPlg7XgtOhhNoQtJSx8 had1pOOj0dn0xd8Iwcs8147tDGvJ+DP+0PhmPpQuBO3IEj9aSTbudnxp8BWV2y5QSx N5767wSwH4I8qQoFzvvpA0VAuEpMPhWK+03nJ5yLgvHtNwe4VHi0ZsBRFDd1JrslBR Rmxt+gueiXY3IIwjz40kCnoRexNedJdLoux8Ga26G5eHG36Yp3TWg+MQmF45mGLNVJ Fin45YqXZkl0Q== Received: by pali.im (Postfix) id 8A088AC9; Thu, 5 Jan 2023 20:22:28 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 20:22:28 +0100 From: Pali =?utf-8?B?Um9ow6Fy?= To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Jens Axboe , Christoph Hellwig , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Linux 6.2-rc1 Message-ID: <20230105192228.flyoihnts32dgi5t@pali> References: <20230104190115.ceglfefco475ev6c@pali> <20230104205640.o2uy2jk4v6yfm4w3@pali> <90eb90da-2679-cac0-979d-6ba0cc8ccbb8@kernel.dk> <20230105174210.jbjoqelllcrd57q6@pali> <58d3649f-3c8c-8b12-1930-f06f59837ad5@kernel.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thursday 05 January 2023 11:06:21 Linus Torvalds wrote: > > As mentioned, I don't think this kind of code belongs in the kernel. sr > > or cdrom could easily be modified to support the necessary bits to > > handle a writeable open, but the grunt of the pktcdvd code deals with > > retrieving and writing out bigger chunks of data. And that part really > > does belong in userspace imho. > > Well, it's the UDF write support that is the issue.. I didn't even > realize people did that. > > You'd presumably have to re-do it as a FUSE thing. It is not UDF / filesystem specific stuff. You can use any other filesystem which you like, for example ext4. And in past some people really used ext2 on CD-RWs. And on Windows systems before Vista, only FAT32 was supported in read-write mode on CD-RW. UDF even on CD-RW was read-only. So FUSE here really does not help. As we are talking about block storage, not filesystem storage.