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Linux aarch64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.6.0 Subject: Re: Linux 6.2-rc1 Content-Language: en-US To: =?UTF-8?Q?Pali_Roh=c3=a1r?= Cc: Linus Torvalds , Christoph Hellwig , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Linux Kernel Mailing List References: <20230104205640.o2uy2jk4v6yfm4w3@pali> <90eb90da-2679-cac0-979d-6ba0cc8ccbb8@kernel.dk> <20230105174210.jbjoqelllcrd57q6@pali> <58d3649f-3c8c-8b12-1930-f06f59837ad5@kernel.dk> <1933bddd-42d7-d92b-974f-f26c46c01547@kernel.dk> <182bc0ee-51e3-b8c4-59f7-dcf702865a95@kernel.dk> <20230106165809.vkz7lr7gi3xce22e@pali> From: Jens Axboe In-Reply-To: <20230106165809.vkz7lr7gi3xce22e@pali> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 1/6/23 9:58?AM, Pali Roh?r wrote: > On Thursday 05 January 2023 13:33:11 Jens Axboe wrote: >> On 1/5/23 1:03?PM, Linus Torvalds wrote: >>> So nobody is going to be motivated to do any development in this area, >>> and the best we can do is probably to just keep it limping along. >> >> Indeed... > ... >>> There's probably other cruft in pktcdvd that could be removed without >>> removing the whole driver, but I do get the feeling that it's just >>> less pain to keep the status quo, and that there isn't really much >>> motivation for anybody to do anything else. >> >> I'm reluctant to touch it outside of changes that are driven by core >> changes, and of course the motivation to remove it was driven by not >> wanting to do that either. Any kind of re-architecting of how it works I >> would not advocate for. It supposedly works well enough that none of the >> (few) users are reporting issues with it, best to just let it remain >> like that imho. > > Yea, I agree. This code is in state when it is _used_ and not developed > anymore. Nobody is really motivated to re-architecture or rewrite this > code. Such work has big probability to break something which currently > works fine. And because lot of users are on stable/LTS kernel versions, > it is possible that we would not notice breakage earlier than (lets say) > in 5 years. I did sent out the revert this morning, would be great if you can test 6.2-rc3 when it is out. I'm a bit skeptical on the whole devnode front, and suspect we might need to convert that to disk_name manipulation. Which would be fine, as we can then drop the devnode reinstate revert as well going forward. But I need to find a bit of time to look closer at this part. -- Jens Axboe