Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754153AbXHUUiX (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:38:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751543AbXHUUiQ (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:38:16 -0400 Received: from smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl ([213.51.130.201]:60894 "EHLO smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751438AbXHUUiP (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:38:15 -0400 Message-ID: <46CB4C0C.70901@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 22:33:16 +0200 From: Rene Herman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Geoff Levand CC: Joe Perches , cbe-oss-dev-owner@ozlabs.org, Satyam Sharma , Geert Uytterhoeven , Linux Kernel Development , Cell Broadband Engine OSS Development , mokuno@sm.sony.co.jp Subject: Re: [PATCH] PS3: Update MAINTAINERS References: <20070816211551.11839.patches@notabene> <1070816112100.12182@suse.de> <46CB3679.3070403@am.sony.com> <1187726479.5963.118.camel@localhost> <46CB45D8.9020801@gmail.com> <46CB4862.9020601@am.sony.com> In-Reply-To: <46CB4862.9020601@am.sony.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AtHome-MailScanner-Information: Please contact support@home.nl for more information X-AtHome-MailScanner: Found to be clean Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1735 Lines: 42 On 08/21/2007 10:17 PM, Geoff Levand wrote: > Rene Herman wrote: >> On 08/21/2007 10:01 PM, Joe Perches wrote: >>> The reason it is being held: >>> >>> Post by non-member to a members-only list >> That means it's not a subcriber-only list -- the message wasn't rejected, >> just subjected to moderation. >> > > So maybe it would be more precise to have something like this: > > -L: cbe-oss-dev@ozlabs.org > +L: cbe-oss-dev@ozlabs.org (moderated) Perhaps. In these spamridden days, mailinglists that don't have the kind of (human and other) resources behind them that linux-kernel has basically have the choice between drowning in spam, becoming subscriber only or moderate non-subscribers and of these, that third option is "best among the bad". alsa-devel for example also went this route -- the spam levels simply weren't tolerable anymore for any subscriber and the list was dying as a result. Moderation sucks, but subcriber-only sucks even worse (generally, and/but even more so for lists that expect crossposts from linux-kernel) so what's a small-time list to do. Moderation takes some effort so the lists that moderate have made the explicit choice to not become subscriber-only. While subscriber-only certainly is useful to mention alongside the list address itself, I'm not too sure mentioning moderation makes a great deal of sense actually -- if all's well, the moderator will simply approve it and you don't have to deal with it other than that. Rene. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/