Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753398AbXHVIhq (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:37:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750919AbXHVIhh (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:37:37 -0400 Received: from il.qumranet.com ([82.166.9.18]:49166 "EHLO il.qumranet.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750832AbXHVIhg (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:37:36 -0400 Message-ID: <46CBF5DD.6040300@qumranet.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:37:49 +0300 From: Avi Kivity User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070419) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zachary Amsden CC: Andrew Morton , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Virtualization Mailing List , Rusty Russell , Chris Wright , Jeremy Fitzhardinge Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add I/O hypercalls for i386 paravirt References: <46CBC842.4070100@vmware.com> <46CBCADF.2070400@qumranet.com> <46CBCC58.3010700@vmware.com> In-Reply-To: <46CBCC58.3010700@vmware.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2616 Lines: 60 Zachary Amsden wrote: > Avi Kivity wrote: >> Zachary Amsden wrote: >> >>> In general, I/O in a virtual guest is subject to performance >>> problems. The I/O can not be completed physically, but must be >>> virtualized. This means trapping and decoding port I/O instructions >>> from the guest OS. Not only is the trap for a #GP heavyweight, both >>> in the processor and the hypervisor (which usually has a complex #GP >>> path), but this forces the hypervisor to decode the individual >>> instruction which has faulted. Worse, even with hardware assist such >>> as VT, the exit reason alone is not sufficient to determine the true >>> nature of the faulting instruction, requiring a complex and costly >>> instruction decode and simulation. >>> >>> This patch provides hypercalls for the i386 port I/O instructions, >>> which vastly helps guests which use native-style drivers. For certain >>> VMI workloads, this provides a performance boost of up to 30%. We >>> expect KVM and lguest to be able to achieve similar gains on I/O >>> intensive workloads. >>> >>> >> >> >> Won't these workloads be better off using paravirtualized drivers? >> i.e., do the native drivers with paravirt I/O instructions get anywhere >> near the performance of paravirt drivers? >> > > Yes, in general, this is true (better off with paravirt drivers). > However, we have "paravirt" drivers which run in both > fully-paravirtualized and fully traditionally virtualized > environments. As a result, they use native port I/O operations to > interact with virtual hardware. Suffering from terminology overdose here: "fully traditionally virtualized, fully-paravirtuallized, para-fullyvirtualized". Since this is only for newer kernels, won't updating the driver to use a hypercall be more efficient? Or is this for existing out-of-tree drivers? > > Since not all hypervisors have paravirtualized driver infrastructures > and guest O/S support yet, these hypercalls can be advantages to a > wide range of scenarios. Using I/O hypercalls as such gives exactly > the same performance as paravirt drivers for us, by eliminating the > costly decode path, and the simplicity of using the same driver code > makes this a huge win in code complexity. Ah, seems the answer to the last question is yes. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/