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[2620:137:e000::1:20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id he36-20020a1709073da400b007a4feae7adfsi17528003ejc.565.2023.01.11.11.42.42; Wed, 11 Jan 2023 11:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) client-ip=2620:137:e000::1:20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=bnd73aiQ; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 2620:137:e000::1:20 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S232011AbjAKT3j (ORCPT + 51 others); Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:29:39 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:40318 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S235492AbjAKT3e (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Jan 2023 14:29:34 -0500 Received: from mail-lf1-x136.google.com (mail-lf1-x136.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::136]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEAC7DFDB; Wed, 11 Jan 2023 11:29:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lf1-x136.google.com with SMTP id bu8so25070625lfb.4; Wed, 11 Jan 2023 11:29:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=nh+HWu2JgroWbtQ9Z9rpBoFsAPaIHouSCQ8ia9uxj5A=; b=bnd73aiQkqW9SWCuYjanI6LTSYxdJUcUYM2p1bIl7Uov3SzLCCKDcnlDNjNu9vd/TG SsAUx4/kkYktlnHiWcQUd8EoadD78NgZkrpcOOAh27jYVuGf+KVwO4IQg4vvHrb0SIdy 5tkigPSrlcCcc+tHMg/pm8W4pqT/5BevqB+1yLufe7hnXsFRvb/f9PGnkKLgMsUYqQFv y918YZUTqQ0ZgruJlb9ulWP0XtleP9+YJeIZeBaSXFFBBm54e6uYRL58ZOWadkyVpeLE dIOPffl4aN9J6UMWCsF1VJz2E+4a7fxzM7HJZAjvlPCEOwHA2uB8lDU/S3eBBpK6gcfY hQQg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:reply-to:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=nh+HWu2JgroWbtQ9Z9rpBoFsAPaIHouSCQ8ia9uxj5A=; b=zg1gTLTKZSt9JTQnAIWXJY32Nb3nCPQsASzq7nUl3syXi0AFT9M9O9SQvOCHnZWcc4 JfmaVQppeWo15j0/2TMm1WxFlVLnydrrX90jp+Tlj42811+gNkhzKbYMwY6b6P7+2OCV tFEqqNcOCmnwLQuDrMydV4b+zLZNK2ZTD3TFF1Rj6pelurFu5DERE4ZhrVP2UnmuLmlS wf3lBGKLERsc/pibUhogf8Xyd+l87n5SbE8f7l6jM+BliN10hTXJANnEl9P1reTTJuPE f1iPqM2i4t1rI6TeNugUPVbobpLiQBfd+u4p1xBFYz7p8nseY/02xU5qyPcIE6xAjCW7 ikBg== X-Gm-Message-State: AFqh2kpo3fMYKxs4UIebhus2fx7rllqbZmmEVw1tB6QJJWVsvZoLn1li aR50AqVqEStT2hGSXWG8URQwyPJyqDaM3nsOYkBb6YY9 X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:238b:b0:4b3:9d5f:e405 with SMTP id c11-20020a056512238b00b004b39d5fe405mr3519187lfv.428.1673465371935; Wed, 11 Jan 2023 11:29:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Reply-To: sedat.dilek@gmail.com From: Sedat Dilek Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2023 20:28:55 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Please, clear statement to what is next LTS linux-kernel To: Greg Kroah-Hartman Cc: Sasha Levin , helpdesk@kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Michael Larabel , Konstantin Ryabitsev , Linus Torvalds Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on lindbergh.monkeyblade.net Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 6:11 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:22:48PM +0100, Sedat Dilek wrote: > > Happy new 2023, > > > > I normally watch [1] for the next LTS linux-kernel which is for me an > > official site and for an official announcement. > > > > On the debian-kernel mailing list you read Linux 6.1 will be the > > official one for Debian-12 aka bookworm. > > > > I saw a phoronix article about EOL of Linux-4.9 [3] which points to [2]. > > > > [2] says: > > > > After being prompted on the kernel mailing list, Linux stable > > maintainer Greg Kroah-Hartman commented: > > > I usually pick the "last kernel of the year", and based on the normal release cycle, yes, 6.1 will be that kernel. > > > But I can't promise anything until it is released, for obvious reasons. > > > > This is not a clear statement for me and was maybe at a point where > > 6.1 was not released. > > > > If you published a clear statement please point me to it. > > And if so, please update [1] accordingly. > > ( It dropped 4.9 from LTS list recently from [1] - guess Konstantin or > > someone from helpdesk did - so [1] is actively maintained. ) > > > > Please, a clear statement. > > Why exactly do you need a "clear statement"? What will that change (or > not change) if it is made? > > Please see this previous thread for what I need from others before I can > make such a thing: > https://lore.kernel.org/r/Y53BputYK+3djDME@kroah.com > > Can you help answer those questions for your use case please? That will > help us make our decision. > You made a clear statement: There was NO decision made for a new LTS kernel. Stand: 11-Jan-2023 Linux 6.1 is NOT an LTS kernel. Thanks. Best regards, -Sedat-