Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933617AbXHVRLR (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:11:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1764907AbXHVRLA (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:11:00 -0400 Received: from netops-testserver-3-out.sgi.com ([192.48.171.28]:35454 "EHLO relay.sgi.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1762562AbXHVRK7 (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:10:59 -0400 Message-ID: <46CC6C4B.1030202@sgi.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:03:07 +0200 From: Jes Sorensen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 (X11/20070719) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Bottomley Cc: Jesse Barnes , akepner@sgi.com, Randy Dunlap , linux-kernel , rdreier@cisco.com, linux-ia64 Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] dma: override "dma_flags_set_dmaflush" for sn-ia64 References: <20070818002746.GU1813@sgi.com> <200708220903.23702.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> <1187801095.3410.49.camel@localhost.localdomain> <200708220951.05101.jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> <1187802272.3410.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <1187802272.3410.58.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1303 Lines: 28 James Bottomley wrote: > I really don't think a work around for a PCI spec violation belongs in > the generic DMA code, do you? The correct fix for this should be to set > the device hints to strict ordering, which presumably altix respects? > In which case, it sounds like what needs exposing are access to the PCI > device hints. I believe both PCI-X and PCIe have these hints as > optional specifiers in the bridges, so it should be in a current Rev of > the PCI spec. Or are you proposing adding an additional PCI API that > allows transaction flushes to be inserted into the stream for devices > and bridges that have already negotiated relaxed ordering? ... in which > case we need to take this to the PCI list. James, I don't believe it respects those hints - I agree, it's a pita, but thats the state of the situation. Even if it did, it would make performance suck as Jesse also pointed out. As I pointed out in my email to Willy is that the NUMA fabric is routed, there's not one path through the system, which is what makes this happen. Jes - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/