Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:14:51 -0500
From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Bryan Wu <bryan.wu@analog.com>, Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>,
       Michal Piotrowski <michal.k.k.piotrowski@gmail.com>, joe@perches.com,
       yi.li@analog.com, vivi.li@analog.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
       sonic.zhang@analog.com, roy.huang@analog.com, robin.getz@analog.com,
       michael.hennerich@analog.com, michael.frysinger@analog.com,
       marc.hoffman@analog.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
       jie.zhang@analog.com, grace.pan@analog.com, bernd.schmidt@analog.com,
       akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
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On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 10:09:43AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > As Mike said, "it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe,
> > > we will
> > > forward any relevant messages"
> > 
> > And as I said, "does your list generate a complaint message back to
> > the sender?" It's the moderation message that's the problem.
> 
> It doesn't send a complaint, it sends a useful note that your message is
> pending moderation.
> 
> The rest appears to be your personal issue Matt, perhaps caused by not
> setting up smart enough mail filters ?

My observation is actually from the other side, Alan. I run a list
that used to send exactly such messages and got complaints from people
in this community about running a subscribers-only list. My natural
conclusion was that the messages were considered to be a problem.
Given that the moderation messages from Mailman actually mention
"subscribers-only", I can't blame non-subscribers for feeling
thwarted, frustrated, annoyed, or inconvenienced when they receive it.

Since I was already whitelisting legitimate posters, I simply turned
off the moderation messages back to the poster. Now the fact that the
list is moderated is completely transparent and no one gets any rude
automated messages.

-- 
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.
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