Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1762134AbXHXQcJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:32:09 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1757758AbXHXQb4 (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:31:56 -0400 Received: from smtp3.hushmail.com ([65.39.178.135]:65015 "EHLO smtp3.hushmail.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757355AbXHXQbz (ORCPT ); Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:31:55 -0400 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:31:43 -0400 To: , Cc: , , Subject: Re: Ideas on column length in kernel "problem"? Reply-to: postfail@hushmail.com From: "Scott Thompson" Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-Id: <20070824163149.B7636C381C@mailserver10.hushmail.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2938 Lines: 72 On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:07:54 -0400 Jesper Juhl wrote: >On 24/08/07, Alan Cox wrote: >> > I think this is also a matter of conding style. >Documentation/CodingStyle says: >> > >> > "The limit on the length of lines is 80 columns and this is a >hard limit." >> >> As has repeatedly been stated this is a bug in >Documentation/CodingStyle and bears no resemblence to reality. >> Quite the hornet's nest I've stirred up -- I'm not trying to rock the boat, just trying to row. Meanwhile, I ran a couple programs against the 2.6.22.1 source to get some statistics on the source in the linux kernel tree to understand what 'reality' is: Number of files -- 23742 Number of lines > 80 columns: 247057 Number of lines > 90 columns: 127016 Number of lines > 100 columns: 21 The *winner* at 482 columns is a commented out line in /linux-2.6.22.1/drivers/pci/hotplug/ibmphp_ebda.c 440 // debug ("rio_node_id: %x\nbbar: %x\nrio_type: %x\nowner_id: %x\nport0_node: %x\nport0_port: %x\nport1_node: %x\nport1_port: %x\nfirst_slot_num: %x\nstatus: %x\n", rio_detail_ptr->rio_node_id, rio_detail_ptr->bbar, rio_detail_ptr->rio_type, rio_detail_ptr- >owner_id, rio_detail_ptr->port0_node_connect, rio_detail_ptr- >port0_port_connect, rio_detail_ptr->port1_node_connect, rio_detail_ptr->port1_port_connect, rio_detail_ptr->first_slot_num, rio_detail_ptr->status); So I think updating the text in coding style one way or another is a good thing since there are ~248k exceptions to the style rule... I can make the bins + scripts I used to gather this and output of this run available if anyone is interested. However, this isn't the whole story.. one of the side effects of the patch system through email clients are that the function name in the 'git diff' (or comparable) output can tack on 20-25 columns of header and further cause wordwrap strife and bring more patches into this problem. It *appears* that many maintainers are pretty good at recognizing this and purging portions of the function names when forwarding them around, but it's still a bigger and common 'problem' for the wordwrapping clients. Example: @@ -189,6 +189,9 @@ static __devinit int ixp4xx_pata_probe(struct platform_device *pdev) Common advice appears to be to get smtp working on gmail, and I thank the list for their suggestions. If I get one/two ways working that are compliant for patch submittal w/o wordwrap (et al) I'll start a 'howto' from my notes on yahoo and gmail/smtp setup and post that up on the interweb. --------------------------------------- Scott Thompson / postfail@hushmail.com --------------------------------------- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/