Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:42:00 -0700
From: Andy Isaacson <adi@hexapodia.org>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>, Bryan Wu <bryan.wu@analog.com>,
       Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>,
       Michal Piotrowski <michal.k.k.piotrowski@gmail.com>, joe@perches.com,
       yi.li@analog.com, vivi.li@analog.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
       sonic.zhang@analog.com, roy.huang@analog.com, robin.getz@analog.com,
       michael.hennerich@analog.com, michael.frysinger@analog.com,
       marc.hoffman@analog.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
       jie.zhang@analog.com, grace.pan@analog.com, bernd.schmidt@analog.com,
       akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH take #2] MAINTAINTERS: use our mail list as Blackfin arch maintainters.
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On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 10:09:43AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > As Mike said, "it is moderated which means you do not need to subscribe,
> > > we will
> > > forward any relevant messages"
> > 
> > And as I said, "does your list generate a complaint message back to
> > the sender?" It's the moderation message that's the problem.
> 
> It doesn't send a complaint, it sends a useful note that your message is
> pending moderation.

It's another waste of space in my inbox due to poorly-implemented
software.

If their mailman installation uses a whitelist, so I get *one* message
per list rather than a bounce for every message I send, then that's
somewhat acceptable.  If I get mailbombed just for participating in a
thread on lkml, that's definitely not acceptable (and I will remove such
lists from the Cc).

It would be vastly better if mailman were smart enough to autoapprove
threaded replies -- it's not as if the spammers are any more likely to
forge In-Reply-To: than From: (which they already do).  Or even to not
waste my time by sending a "held for moderation" message until it's
processed by the listowner.

> The rest appears to be your personal issue Matt, perhaps caused by not
> setting up smart enough mail filters ?

Not sure what ad hominem attacks have to do with this situation.  It's
not as if I can reasonably /dev/null all mailman gunk; if there's a real
exception condition, I want to see it.

-andy
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