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To:     David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
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On 23.01.23 14:38, David Howells wrote:
> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> That would be the ideal case: whenever intending to access page content, use
>> FOLL_PIN instead of FOLL_GET.
>>
>> The issue that John was trying to sort out was that there are plenty of
>> callsites that do a simple put_page() instead of calling
>> unpin_user_page(). IIRC, handling that correctly in existing code -- what was
>> pinned must be released via unpin_user_page() -- was the biggest workitem.
>>
>> Not sure how that relates to your work here (that's why I was asking): if you
>> could avoid FOLL_GET, that would be great :)
> 
> Well, it simplifies things a bit.
> 
> I can make the new iov_iter_extract_pages() just do "pin" or "don't pin" and
> do no ref-getting at all.  Things can be converted over to "unpin the pages or
> doing nothing" as they're converted over to using iov_iter_extract_pages()
> from iov_iter_get_pages*().
> 
> The block bio code then only needs a single bit of state: pinned or not
> pinned.

Unfortunately, I'll have to let BIO experts comment on that :) I only 
know the MM side of things here.

> 
> For cifs RDMA, do I need to make it pass in FOLL_LONGTERM?  And does that need
> a special cleanup?

Anything that holds pins "possibly forever" should that. vmsplice() is 
another example that should use it, once properly using FOLL_PIN. 
[FOLL_GET | FOLL_LONGTERM is not really used/defined with semantics]

> 
> sk_buff fragment handling could still be tricky.  I'm thinking that in that
> code I'll need to store FOLL_GET/PIN in the bottom two bits of the frag page
> pointer.  Sometimes it allocates a new page and attaches it (have ref);
> sometimes it does zerocopy to/from a page (have pin) and sometimes it may be
> pointing to a kernel buffer (don't pin or ref).
> 
> David
> 

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb