Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EC5C05027 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 18:07:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S233753AbjAWSHe (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:07:34 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:49282 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S233796AbjAWSHc (ORCPT ); Mon, 23 Jan 2023 13:07:32 -0500 Received: from mail.marcansoft.com (marcansoft.com [212.63.210.85]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6724130B2F for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 10:07:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: lina@asahilina.net) by mail.marcansoft.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1E40C434C6; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 18:07:14 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=asahilina.net; s=default; t=1674497237; bh=Is7K/HK01r2VTfdx6SQV+9Ry5+75txzgJ9japxHlt9w=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=ySWmV6wXPK6Sfl04leiA66xW02qJEF1oflNPWlK3Jf8HI4YWHt6zNHJmi04lhuAqD o3KJ8nkscYb+B1rxBZvnE2/gjwL/hMekItZHmzHUc/Lkcn5bpeBgKt9jsZIMqu8RSE bWXaBcZQIWKIGGXmUWT9m9+penIt+2CROZBfumXWqhdZ8ChGqUWeq9Cslu64iedPoG ZZ+xjUJKM4y/PYMjgljPbtk3B4b73eHIzGDkHY33Lir6GlDYWM9+/ynXO7BFlMJaP5 f7rIBi7rq8wyaL6Dovf/tX6+MqK9F0FBOgKOX1JnSOc7SSut+d1FDezK7KwJcpa8a5 fp0FpYk8Ar4pA== Message-ID: <23f25ccd-64a3-5b27-6016-fe6fd653d1cc@asahilina.net> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2023 03:07:12 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.9.1 Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu/io-pgtable: Add Apple UAT variant format Content-Language: en-US To: Robin Murphy , Will Deacon , Joerg Roedel Cc: Hector Martin , Sven Peter , Alyssa Rosenzweig , asahi@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev References: <20230121084758.31875-1-lina@asahilina.net> <4559b97f-1761-9652-8ee1-a3c52959cf9b@arm.com> From: Asahi Lina In-Reply-To: <4559b97f-1761-9652-8ee1-a3c52959cf9b@arm.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi Robin, thank you for the review! On 24/01/2023 00.39, Robin Murphy wrote: > On 2023-01-21 08:47, Asahi Lina wrote: >> The prot bits are interpreted as follows: >> >> - IOMMU_READ and IOMMU_WRITE have the usual meaning. >> >> - IOMMU_PRIV creates firmware-only mappings (no GPU access) >> - IOMMU_NOEXEC creates GPU-only structures (no FW access) >> - Otherwise structures are accessible by both GPU and FW >> >> - IOMMU_MMIO creates Device mappings for firmware >> - IOMMU_CACHE creates Normal-NC mappings for firmware (cache-coherent >> from the point of view of the AP, but slower) >> - Otherwise creates Normal mappings for firmware (this requires manual >> cache management on the firmware side, as it is not coherent with the >> SoC fabric) > > Please don't abuse the prot flags by overloading them with > caller-specific meanings, especially if that ends up completely > reversing the expected meaning. They represent fairly generic semantics > which IOMMU drivers, and thus io-pgtable implementations, are expected > to match if the underlying format supports it, or ignore if not. If a > pagetable format has other functionality which a caller wants to make > use of, then we can look at extending that (possibly even as far as > reserving some prot values for format-specific definitons, if need be), > but the point is still to represent the functionality of the > MMU/pagetable itself, not encode higher-level use-cases. That's fair, I wasn't sure which option would be preferable! I think for this hardware, I'd have naturally expressed it as something like PRIV_READ and PRIV_WRITE instead of PRIV, where this represents the firmware side permissions to be ORed with the regular (GPU side) permissions. But since we already have IOMMU_PRIV, it becomes a bit harder... Another option would be to just add IOMMU_UNPRIV which implies unprivileged-only, and map that to GPU access. Then having no flag would create GPU+FW mappings, or you could restrict it to FW only with PRIV or GPU only with UNPRIV. Neither of those options is a "perfect" match for what is really going on, but I can't really think of a better way, other than just using format-specific options... do you have a particular preference? I think the MMIO/CACHE flags do map well enough so we probably don't need to touch those, right?. CACHE is a bit weird in that it winds up meaning "uncached by the firmware", but the comment in iommu.h specifically calls its meaning out as "DMA cache coherency" and that is what this achieves, coherency between (uncached) firmware accesses and the AP CPU cache (which is coherent with the memory controller and therefore coherent with the uncached view from the firmware side). Plus by all appearances this mode does mean properly cached/coherent from the GPU side (though that could just be implied either way). >> Drivers are expected to fully manage per-user (TTBR0) page tables, but >> ownership of shared kernel (TTBR1) page tables is shared between the >> firmware and the AP OS. We handle this by simply using a smaller IAS to >> drop down one level of page tables, so the driver can install a PTE in >> the top-level (firmware-initialized) page table directly and just add an >> offset to the VAs passed into the io_pgtable code. This avoids having to >> have any special handling for this here. The firmware-relevant data >> structures are small, so we do not expect to ever require more VA space >> than one top-level PTE covers (IAS=36 for the next level, 64 GiB). > > I don't quite follow what you're saying there.... however, since > io-pgtable-arm already supports the TTB0/TTB1 distinction, on the face > of it it would seem simpler to make use of the existing > IO_PGTABLE_QUIRK_ARM_TTBR1 than play weird non-obvious tricks to pretend > TTB1 somehow lives inside the TTB0 VA range (or is it the other way round?) What I'm doing for the upper address space half is using the io_pgtable code to manage a set of sub page tables rooted at a PT that is not managed by io_pgtable. Unfortunately, that means that the address range covered doesn't match either natural TTBR0/TTBR1 range... More specifically, we have a 40-bit VA range split as follows: (000000)0000000000..7fffffffff: Unprivileged, nonglobal ("TTBR0") (ffffff)8000000000..ffffffffff: Privileged/firmware, (mostly) global ("TTBR1") Within the user range there are certain special purpose VA ranges, but that's not something io_pgtable has to care about (that half works as normal and is fully managed by the driver). However, the top level privileged PT is partially initialized for us (the system bootloader actually gives us a static allocation for it before Linux runs at all, and the GPU firmware initializes some PTEs on startup). When the driver starts up, it then adds its own PTEs. We end up with it split into firmware-managed and kernel-managed regions like this: (ffffff)8000000000..9fffffffff: Firmware-owned (FW code/data/mmio) (ffffff)a000000000..ffffffffff: Kernel-owned (driver<->FW shared data & some extra driver-managed mmio) And the way I handle the kernel owned region in practice is by creating an io_pgtable with IAS=36, and installing its pointer into a PTE (directly in the driver code) at index 2 in the top-level page table, which is not used by the firmware itself. So then the io_pgtable's VA span ends up being (ffffff)a000000000..afffffffff, which is not what IO_PGTABLE_QUIRK_ARM_TTBR1 would do... This is for a GPU driver though, and not a generic IOMMU driver, so it's going to call directly into io_pgtable anyway and it's trivial to have it add an offset to the VAs at that point. That's why I figured it's not worth adding more special-case code or quirks to io_pgtable to handle this. The existing Panfrost driver (which uses the Mali format and similarly calls in directly to this code) is the closest analogue to what I'm doing in spirit, though it doesn't need to do weird things with VAs and firmware regions for that particular platform. >> - if (data->iop.fmt == ARM_64_LPAE_S1 || >> + if (data->iop.fmt == APPLE_UAT) { >> + /* >> + * This bit enables GPU access and the particular permission >> + * rules that follow. Without it, access is firmware-only and >> + * permissions follow the firmware's Apple SPRR configuration. >> + */ >> + pte = APPLE_UAT_GPU_ACCESS; >> + if (prot & IOMMU_PRIV) { >> + /* Firmware structures */ >> + pte |= APPLE_UAT_AP0; >> + if (prot & IOMMU_WRITE) { >> + /* Firmware RW */ >> + pte |= APPLE_UAT_UXN; >> + } else if (!(prot & IOMMU_READ)) { >> + /* No access */ >> + pte |= APPLE_UAT_PXN; >> + } >> + } else if (prot & IOMMU_NOEXEC) { >> + /* GPU structures (no FW access) */ >> + pte |= APPLE_UAT_AP1 | ARM_LPAE_PTE_nG; >> + if (!(prot & IOMMU_READ)) { >> + pte |= APPLE_UAT_PXN; >> + if (!(prot & IOMMU_WRITE)) >> + pte |= APPLE_UAT_UXN; >> + } else if (prot & IOMMU_WRITE) { >> + pte |= APPLE_UAT_UXN; >> + } >> + } else { >> + pte |= ARM_LPAE_PTE_nG; > > So coprocessor-only mappings are global, but any shared or GPU-only > mappings are per-ASID? I guess that kind of makes sense, but it's not > the easiest to follow. Would you even have firmware-only mappings in the > "user context" pagetable, or is this an artefact of the TTB1 trickery > (assuming the typical usage model where the upper address space stays > constant, and the lower half is context-switched) which could perhaps be > expressed a better way? Yeah, this is a bit of a hack... ideally we'd probably have another PROT bit to specify nG directly. The logic I use here happens to match what the driver needs, but it does encode "magic policy" to an extent... but yes, you'd never have firmware-only mappings in a lower user context, because then there'd be no reason for them to be there (and it would likely cause a security issue for any actual application). All GPU-only user context (lower) mappings are necessarily nonglobal, and all shared GPU/firmware mappings are either in user context (lower, so necessarily nonglobal), or in a few specific cases in upper kernel context and restricted to GPU context slot #0 (and then those also need to be nonglobal from the GPU point of view for security reasons, to make sure they don't become visible from any other context/ASID - see the next bit). Only firmware-only structures (which exist only in the upper half) are truly global. Basically the way the firmware manages this is the "typical" setup where its TTBR1_EL1 is fixed and TTBR0_EL0 changes for context switching, but the way the GPU sees it is that there is a table in memory of 64 TTB0/TTB1 pairs (called the TTBAT, I assume it means Translation Table Base Address Table), and it makes no distinction between both halves (and there is also no explicit privilege separation and no actual kernel/user permission bits). The firmware reads the same table too, but only to fetch a TTB0 entry and switch its TTBR0_EL0 to it. It always ignores the TTB1 entry. The way the driver sets the TTBAT up is: #0:TTB0 -> empty PT (required as it becomes the firmware's default TTBR0_EL0 when no specific user context needs to be mapped, and it panics if it's invalid) #0:TTB1 -> equal to the firmware TTBR1_EL1, containing the firmware's own mappings, kernel firmware-only mappings, and a few firmware/GPU shared things to be accessed from GPU context #0 (which we consider privileged, and it is those few GPU-shared things that this entry is here for) #1:TTB0 -> user context #1 #1:TTB1 -> unset (invalid) #2:TTB0 -> user context #2 #2:TTB1 -> unset (invalid) [...] And user contexts are dynamically allocated and swapped in and out of TTBAT slots as required (if you have <= 63 GPU active client apps, there will be no swapping). Then the user VA space view from the point of view of a GPU shader program becomes the user context in the lower half, and an invalid upper half (which is similar to the EL0 view in typical ARM64 OS convention where ~everything in the upper half is inaccessible to EL0 anyway). Though nothing would stop us from using the upper TTB1 half to double the user VA space for GPU programs, at the cost of firmware never being able to see those mappings since it doesn't switch its TTBR1_EL0 (but that's okay for most use cases), and an awkward gap between both halves that cannot be safely straddled except where it can (since the GPU sometimes really does use 40-bit VAs internally with no sign extension requirement!)... but I don't think we need to worry about this until Apple releases a Mac with 1TB of RAM and the same old 40-bit GPU MMU design, which is probably unlikely. >> + /* GPU structures (also FW accessible) */ >> + if (prot & IOMMU_WRITE) >> + pte |= APPLE_UAT_UXN; >> + if (prot & IOMMU_READ) >> + pte |= APPLE_UAT_PXN; >> + } > > More than that, though, if there is "no real noexec control" as the > commit message claims, howcome the great majority of the complexity here > is dedicated to setting XN bits? Apple overloads the AP[1:0]/PXN/UXN bits for their own implementation-defined permission schemes, both for the SPRR mechanism [1] (which is what the GPU firmware uses for its own private code/data/MMIO PTEs) and for the special GPU-specific permissions used here, so their usual standard ARM meaning does not apply. This is supported in their AP CPU cores too, which also have SPRR (which of course we don't enable in Linux because that'd be ridiculous... but in principle we could just like macOS does, and you can do some neat tricks like fast secure EL0 JIT code permission remapping with it!). So far everywhere else in the code touching these things (like our m1n1 bootloader, which uses SPRR in some cases) we've been keeping the "original" bit names even when describing SPRR permissions, where you basically take [AP1][AP0][PXN][UXN] as an opaque 0-15 index into a configurable permissions table. Here those 16 values instead represent specific combinations of GPU/FW access permissions. I guess if we were making new bit names up, we could just call them AP0-3... but I fear that might be more confusing given AP0/1 already exist in the standard and are in the wrong logical bit position in the set of 4... [1] https://blog.svenpeter.dev/posts/m1_sprr_gxf/ >> + } else if (data->iop.fmt == ARM_64_LPAE_S1 || >> data->iop.fmt == ARM_32_LPAE_S1) { >> pte = ARM_LPAE_PTE_nG; >> if (!(prot & IOMMU_WRITE) && (prot & IOMMU_READ)) >> @@ -421,7 +465,14 @@ static arm_lpae_iopte arm_lpae_prot_to_pte(struct arm_lpae_io_pgtable *data, >> * Note that this logic is structured to accommodate Mali LPAE >> * having stage-1-like attributes but stage-2-like permissions. >> */ >> - if (data->iop.fmt == ARM_64_LPAE_S2 || >> + if (data->iop.fmt == APPLE_UAT) { >> + if (prot & IOMMU_MMIO) >> + pte |= APPLE_UAT_MEMATTR_DEV; >> + else if (prot & IOMMU_CACHE) >> + pte |= APPLE_UAT_MEMATTR_SHARED; >> + else >> + pte |= APPLE_UAT_MEMATTR_PRIV; >> + } else if (data->iop.fmt == ARM_64_LPAE_S2 || >> data->iop.fmt == ARM_32_LPAE_S2) { >> if (prot & IOMMU_MMIO) >> pte |= ARM_LPAE_PTE_MEMATTR_DEV; >> @@ -444,12 +495,14 @@ static arm_lpae_iopte arm_lpae_prot_to_pte(struct arm_lpae_io_pgtable *data, >> * "outside the GPU" (i.e. either the Inner or System domain in CPU >> * terms, depending on coherency). >> */ >> - if (prot & IOMMU_CACHE && data->iop.fmt != ARM_MALI_LPAE) >> + if (data->iop.fmt == APPLE_UAT) >> + pte |= ARM_LPAE_PTE_SH_NS; > > This doesn't make much sense... it's cache-coherent yet everything is > always non-shareable? I'm going to guess that bits 9:8 probably do > something else and you're actually just trying to make sure they aren't > set; if so, please express that semantic appropriately. SH should have the normal meaning for the firmware CPU MMU, but unfortunately setting it to OS doesn't actually get us cache coherency as far as I can tell, so my understanding is the interconnect between the coprocessor and the SoC fabric just does not support coherency. Therefore, we set it to NS since it's pointless (this is the same thing macOS does). "Cache coherency" from the firmware point of view is achieved with non-cacheable mappings instead (which is a shame, because they measurably slow things down, so we don't want to use them everywhere... but using cached mappings requires cache maintenance from the firmware). I've been having endless corner cases with cached mappings where the firmware ends up with a dirty stale cache line that clobbers some other data structure reusing that memory later... this is something I'm still working on by tweaking allocation patterns to avoid bad situations without having to force flush everything constantly. For the GPU side, I get the feeling it just ignores the shareability bits, though we haven't had a chance to properly explore the performance/coherency behavior of the GPU side yet (I only just got compute shaders working last week, which we'd need to do any serious experiments). It definitely ignores the memattr stuff or at least doesn't treat it the same way as the firmware, since all GPU buffers are mapped using the attribute that selects non-cacheable from the firmware POV but the GPU itself obviously has working caches for these buffers. It's possible this could change in the future as we understand things better... Please keep in mind that all of this is reverse engineered by black-box observing what macOS does (we run it inside a thin hypervisor and snoop on its page tables/etc) and blind experimentation, so it's very difficult for me to give confident answers... we're doing our best with zero documentation, so sometimes the answer is just "we do the same thing macOS does" because diverging just explodes the potential problem space, and doesn't make sense to do until we fully understand each specific mechanism. For example, for the access permissions, I do diverge there because I understand them (I tried all possible combinations and mapped out what faulted and what didn't from both firmware and GPU), so my driver locks things down quite a bit more than Apple's does! But caching (and previously TLB) issues have been a never-ending source of pain and frustration... so I'm inclined to default to emulating what macOS does here, even if we don't fully understand the nuance yet. I actually had this as OS for a while, but switched to NS while debugging some (ultimately unrelated) issues and I'm inclined to leave it like that absent evidence that OS works better in practice. I don't have all the answers yet... however, I do want to push forward with upstreaming, because this is already a real, fully OpenGL ES 2.0 conformant driver (and close to ES 3.0 conformance) that can run real desktops and games and which many users are using downstream. I hope that's okay! >> @@ -148,6 +149,10 @@ struct io_pgtable_cfg { >> u64 ttbr[4]; >> u32 n_ttbrs; >> } apple_dart_cfg; >> + >> + struct { >> + u64 ttbr; > > The comment further up implies it's called TTBAT? Kind of both. Maybe it should just be "ttb", since it's the base address which (together with a valid bit and the ASID added by the driver) goes into the TTBAT slot and then eventually/potentially into the firmware TTBR0. Except for the special case sub-PT hack for the kernel/upper PT, but even then "ttb" probably makes sense as the base of the (next level) page table. Does that work? ~~ Lina