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Subject: Re: Internal vs. external barriers (was: Re: Interesting LKMM litmus
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To:     Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
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On 1/23/2023 4:55 PM, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 12:48:42PM +0100, Jonas Oberhauser wrote:
>>
>> On 1/21/2023 6:36 PM, Alan Stern wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 10:41:14PM +0100, Jonas Oberhauser wrote:
>>>> On 1/20/2023 5:18 PM, Alan Stern wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 11:13:00AM +0100, Jonas Oberhauser wrote:
>>>>>> Perhaps we could say that reading an index without using it later is
>>>>>> forbidden?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> flag ~empty [Srcu-lock];data;rf;[~ domain(data;[Srcu-unlock])] as
>>>>>> thrown-srcu-cookie-on-floor
>>>>> We already flag locks that don't have a matching unlock.
>>>> Of course, but as you know this is completely orthogonal.
>>> Yeah, okay.  It doesn't hurt to add this check, but the check isn't
>>> complete.  For example, it won't catch the invalid usage here:
>>>
>>> P0(srcu_struct *ss)
>>> {
>>> 	int r1, r2;
>>>
>>> 	r1 = srcu_read_lock(ss);
>>> 	srcu_read_unlock(&ss, r1);
>>> 	r2 = srcu_read_lock(ss);
>>> 	srcu_read_unlock(&ss, r2);
>>> }
>>>
>>> exists (~0:r1=0:r2)
>>>
>>> On the other hand, how often will people make this sort of mistake in
>>> their litmus tests?  My guess is not very.
>> I currently don't care too much about the incorrect usage of herd (by
>> inspecting some final state incorrectly), only incorrect usage in the code.
> I'm inclined to add this check to the memory model.  Would you prefer to
> submit it yourself as a separate patch?  Or are you happy to have it
> merged with my patch, and if so, do you have a final, preferred form for
> the check?

After clearing my confusion, I'm no longer sure if it should be added. 
If you're still inclined to have it, I would prefer to submit the patch, 
but I'd like to define the use-cookie relation (= 
(data|[~Srcu-unlock];rfe)+) and use it also to clarify the srcu match 
definition (I almost would like to do that anyways :D).
Is that ok?

jonas