Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EABB9C54EAA for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2023 12:43:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S233884AbjA0Mnd (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Jan 2023 07:43:33 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:56754 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S233119AbjA0Mnb (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Jan 2023 07:43:31 -0500 Received: from foss.arm.com (foss.arm.com [217.140.110.172]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165E8977C for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2023 04:43:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (unknown [10.121.207.14]) by usa-sjc-mx-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6642F; Fri, 27 Jan 2023 04:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.57.88.221] (unknown [10.57.88.221]) by usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 993FF3F5A1; Fri, 27 Jan 2023 04:43:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 12:43:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.6.1 Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] arm64/mm: Intercept pfn changes in set_pte_at() Content-Language: en-GB To: Will Deacon , Anshuman Khandual Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com, Mark Rutland , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mark Brown References: <20230109052816.405335-1-anshuman.khandual@arm.com> <20230126133321.GB29148@willie-the-truck> From: Robin Murphy In-Reply-To: <20230126133321.GB29148@willie-the-truck> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 2023-01-26 13:33, Will Deacon wrote: > On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 11:11:49AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote: >> On 1/9/23 10:58, Anshuman Khandual wrote: >>> Changing pfn on a user page table mapped entry, without first going through >>> break-before-make (BBM) procedure is unsafe. This just updates set_pte_at() >>> to intercept such changes, via an updated pgattr_change_is_safe(). This new >>> check happens via __check_racy_pte_update(), which has now been renamed as >>> __check_safe_pte_update(). >>> >>> Cc: Catalin Marinas >>> Cc: Will Deacon >>> Cc: Mark Rutland >>> Cc: Andrew Morton >>> Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org >>> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >>> Signed-off-by: Anshuman Khandual >>> --- >>> This applies on v6.2-rc3. This patch had some test time on an internal CI >>> system without any issues being reported. >> >> Gentle ping, any updates on this patch ? Still any concerns ? > > I don't think we really got to the bottom of Mark's concerns with > unreachable ptes on the stack, did we? I also have vague recollections > of somebody (Robin?) running into issues with the vmap code not honouring > BBM. Doesn't ring a bell, so either it wasn't me, or it was many years ago and about 5 levels deep into trying to fix something else :/ > So I think we should confirm/fix the vmap issue before we enable this check > and also try to get some testing coverage to address Mark's worries. I think > he has a syzkaller instance set up, so that sound like a good place to > start. I think we're also missing a subtlety here in that this restriction doesn't *always* apply. For instance if someone wants to move a page by making the mapping read-only, copying the contents to a new page, then pointing the RO mapping at that new page, that should technically not require BBM. Thanks, Robin.