Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759653AbXH3Qlu (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:41:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1759418AbXH3Qlj (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:41:39 -0400 Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:58520 "EHLO out2.smtp.messagingengine.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759043AbXH3Qli (ORCPT ); Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:41:38 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: qiaSy+lOvKsBt28jX3d7Ht1NyRFEvnbn6x7Z5bI2nZQY 1188492097 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 13:41:32 -0300 From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh To: Yan Burman Cc: Shem Multinymous , hdaps-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Pavel Machek Subject: Re: [Hdaps-devel] [PATCH 2.6.23-rc2] hwmon: HP Mobile Data Protection System 3D ACPI driver (resend) Message-ID: <20070830164132.GA21023@khazad-dum.debian.net> References: <1186831562.6452.10.camel@localhost> <20070825102512.GA5850@ucw.cz> <46D01420.3070400@gmail.com> <20070827171107.GA15647@khazad-dum.debian.net> <46D5A742.8090201@gmail.com> <20070829233024.GA7433@khazad-dum.debian.net> <41840b750708291731w3fb5e673k3c1283e4a2fa82f0@mail.gmail.com> <46D6E5CD.4060807@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <46D6E5CD.4060807@gmail.com> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1024D/1CDB0FE3 5422 5C61 F6B7 06FB 7E04 3738 EE25 DE3F 1CDB 0FE3 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2337 Lines: 49 On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Yan Burman wrote: >>> You can generate events on input devices, but I am not sure that's the >>> best way to go about it for this. Things that block on read until an >>> interrupt happens might work better. >> >> You can do the latter via another (4th) input device. >> > What's wrong with the stuff I did in mdps? a misc character device that > acts like /dev/rtc. Why does it have to be input device oriented? I am fine with a char device that acts like /dev/rtc, but if we are doing something as heavyweight as a char device, I'd rather we go full generic netlink and send the various events over it. We'd have a netlink device that sends everything over various "channels" and just one input device that does joystick emulation, then. Can we use a simple sysfs attribute that blocks the caller on write and returns immediately on read? If it has to be more complicated than that, I'd rather we go the netlink path. Any other ideas that are not a char device, not a netlink socket, not an input device node, and not a sysfs attribute? > I also looked at what you did in the patches as well as the modified > hdapsd. I'm doing the raw input device right now in the mdps, but I have a > suggestion. > > It seems to me that right now there are at least 3 drivers that provide the > same functionality - hdaps, ams and mdps. Why not create the input device > that exports raw accelerometer data with a name that is generic - something > like accel/input or something along those lines. This way hdapsd could work > with any driver that provides the functionality without being hdaps > specific. THAT is the idea, IMO. But the naming is userspace's problem (thorugh udev), not ours :-) Or do you mean the "hardware port" part of the input device? If so, yes, we should try to make standard names for those as that makes it easier for userspace. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/