From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: David Newall <david@davidnewall.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sysctl: Deprecate sys_sysctl in a user space visible fashion.
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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:40:51 -0600
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David Newall <david@davidnewall.com> writes:

> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> This isn't "Oh some apps are using it let's get them to stop, because
>> it is inconvenient".  This is  "No apps seems to be using this, we
>> keep goofing up the maintenance and no one notices, and so it is
>> likely a source of security problems and other nasties"
>>
>
> This first claim is not consistent with the next claim:
>
>> I have evidence that there are 1 or 2 open source applications using
>> this (not counting the glibc weirdness).
>
> If may be unmaintainable but, apparently, it's not really unused.

Only in a strict mathematical sense.  I seem to recall patches to
those programs or seeing that it doesn't matter.  Things are sufficient
that I expect that in 2 years time when we revisit this.  We won't
be able to find anything that cares.

Eric
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