Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5730C61DA4 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 23:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230370AbjA3XaU (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Jan 2023 18:30:20 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:52350 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229832AbjA3XaS (ORCPT ); Mon, 30 Jan 2023 18:30:18 -0500 Received: from mail-io1-xd36.google.com (mail-io1-xd36.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d36]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 882792A161 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 15:30:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-io1-xd36.google.com with SMTP id e2so2362785iot.11 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 15:30:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=google; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:cc:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=1nynTv2Ukmore8oJy9kp+YA0Zu6nVdeunqSuZlsLFu4=; b=IihrPV91c0txs5z5kc9WvcNMFOFdzExEY9PtT9Xawn3cICGDXVnqxwuQDoXJwSca51 M6LRLiBn9Nwa9qTLeJyiyzZ4qiziMDXBH2mmxADPHG3XTJdjavj1QAcIy6HWvTIPB/eh paFeDxYdkHV28EcJiI70rcS3NxJY5NNW19dyA= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:cc:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=1nynTv2Ukmore8oJy9kp+YA0Zu6nVdeunqSuZlsLFu4=; b=J8IzWFSTPgQZPsOvGSEhR9wvVlgdBzS/Qz4B9KUI7BA3Q/glDEJJIzmNWREzXNArwJ qMp+TmPX4GSskJgZ4zTb9qiH4JLaV40Btqkei1BXZKixnTV1jEptgRvJXuTARNRlrCd2 jzw6FypfuCtq/kBgIp+rdEJzpENXj9RgOBGoNjFmne2fvD2P34ArL43TiuHeGddyxKKL 5p9qn6TJIdcHejpmAsyLwzUZuJjKT7WIpSP5Xaob3z0/zWnDztHMGIwe0BcZ1KqDVmvV zuDbhJrCWNI/dvK1w0oPRK/iLfFVSmNyi+PMewapxj03MTL26uzzst0fSex3QRS8PGJY QG9A== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKWb1283ts5W7r9mro/equ/3aoqzNYgkt/MTVY9lC4WAl90eunfA UVusDZt55IC2yvPaKvZF8oZuEw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set+Ka7jWFMTaHswsuPRZzqYl8P0nsaklr15XgXcATVEP11vHn9J9rdDkVExRCdnRcbC/xyDn9g== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:88f:b0:719:6a2:99d8 with SMTP id f15-20020a056602088f00b0071906a299d8mr1515994ioz.0.1675121412814; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 15:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.128] ([38.15.45.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g1-20020a5ec741000000b0071dc7b4d0c7sm1098260iop.6.2023.01.30.15.30.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Jan 2023 15:30:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <021776e6-b37f-0a2e-41e0-5c09f9582c57@linuxfoundation.org> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:30:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.4.2 Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] docs: add workload-tracing document to admin-guide Content-Language: en-US To: Thorsten Leemhuis , corbet@lwn.net Cc: sshefali021@gmail.com, kstewart@linuxfoundation.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Shuah Khan References: <20230127234616.55137-1-skhan@linuxfoundation.org> From: Shuah Khan In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 1/28/23 01:35, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > Lo! One small quick question. > > On 28.01.23 00:46, Shuah Khan wrote: >> Add a new section to the admin-guide with information of interest to >> application developers and system integrators doing analysis of the >> Linux kernel for safety critical applications. > > That intro made my mind go "neither 'application developers' or 'system > integrators' are admins, so why is this added to the 'admin guide' then?" > I see what you are saying. > That made me look up the into for the admin guide, which is > ``` > The Linux kernel user’s and administrator’s guide > > The following is a collection of user-oriented documents that have been > added to the kernel over time. There is, as yet, little overall order or > organization here — this material was not written to be a single, > coherent document! With luck things will improve quickly over time. > ``` > > Adding another section that doesn't seem to a be a good fit feels a bit > like "making things worse than better". So wouldn't this maybe be a > good opportunity to create a totally new top-level section for > application developers and system integrators, even if it's tiny for > now? The audience is likely big enough to justify that -- and the topics > are likely different enough, too (of course sometimes there will be > overlap, as always). Any maybe it will help to bring other stuff over > from admin guide that is more targeted for application developers and > system integrators, which will help to get more structure into the > admin-guide. > I like the idea of creating a new top-level section for application developers and system integrators. I foresee this section growing and also we can look at other documents that are a good fit under this category and move them over. Jon, Thoughts on this. thanks, -- Shuah