Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754706AbXIAJxQ (ORCPT ); Sat, 1 Sep 2007 05:53:16 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752739AbXIAJxD (ORCPT ); Sat, 1 Sep 2007 05:53:03 -0400 Received: from nic.NetDirect.CA ([216.16.235.2]:34260 "EHLO rubicon.netdirect.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752696AbXIAJxB (ORCPT ); Sat, 1 Sep 2007 05:53:01 -0400 X-Originating-Ip: 72.143.66.27 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 05:41:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert P. J. Day" X-X-Sender: rpjday@localhost.localdomain To: Stefan Richter cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: maturity and status and attributes, oh my! In-Reply-To: <46D9306C.9040301@s5r6.in-berlin.de> Message-ID: References: <46D89800.8080701@s5r6.in-berlin.de> <46D9306C.9040301@s5r6.in-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Net-Direct-Inc-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Net-Direct-Inc-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Net-Direct-Inc-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-16.8, required 5, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -15.00, INIT_RECVD_OUR_AUTH -20.00, RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL 20.00) X-Net-Direct-Inc-MailScanner-From: rpjday@mindspring.com Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2075 Lines: 48 On Sat, 1 Sep 2007, Stefan Richter wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > you take advantage of that? you'd have to add a new > > structure to "make config" along the following lines: > > > > Along with maturity-untagged features, what other maturity levels > > would you like to see and be able to select? > > Most (all?) users and presumably most distributors/packagers don't > decide this globally. They look at a feature and decide, based on > their need for this feature, whether they enable or disable it, > whether they look into alternative hardware/drivers/apps, whether > they get in touch with the maintainer. agreed. but i'm not proposing that *every* feature in the kernel be investigated to see what category it falls into -- that's clearly an unreasonable thing to do. all this new construct is doing is implementing a new way to globally select or de-select large sets of kernel features to display for user selection, in exactly the way that EXPERIMENTAL does it now, that's all. these attributes would not *force* selection, they would simply *filter* what to display, nothing more. this whole attribute thing is not adding anything breathtaking new, it's simply taking the example set by EXPERIMENTAL and generalizing it and making it more convenient in the process. and, as a start, the first thing to do is apply a patch that defines an attribute and its possible values, and allows kernel features (via Kconfig files) to be tagged with that attribute, without being able to do anything with it yet. one step at a time. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca ======================================================================== - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/