Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933042AbXIAXNO (ORCPT ); Sat, 1 Sep 2007 19:13:14 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1757151AbXIAXNB (ORCPT ); Sat, 1 Sep 2007 19:13:01 -0400 Received: from bofh.cns.ualberta.ca ([129.128.11.10]:52940 "EHLO bofh.cns.ualberta.ca" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755745AbXIAXNA (ORCPT ); Sat, 1 Sep 2007 19:13:00 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 1907 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at vger.kernel.org; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:13:00 EDT Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 16:41:12 -0600 From: Bob Beck To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: [beck@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca: I respect the GPL immensely, really I do - but I believe this type of action weakens us all.] Message-ID: <20070901224112.GC24887@bofh.cns.ualberta.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 3902 Lines: 80 ----- Forwarded message from Bob Beck ----- From: Bob Beck To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: I respect the GPL immensely, really I do - but I believe this type of action weakens us all. X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on bofh.cns.ualberta.ca X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=no version=3.1.8 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 16:22:43 -0600 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 [ A copy of this is going to the linux kernel mailing list, regarding the recent license modifications to reyk's files] >Oh, and if you look at the OpenBSD CVS you see versions 4 months old >with dozens of contributions by Reyk and with: > >/* $OpenBSD: ath.c,v 1.63 2007/05/09 16:41:14 reyk Exp $ */ >/* $NetBSD: ath.c,v 1.37 2004/08/18 21:59:39 dyoung Exp $ */ >/*- > * Copyright (c) 2002-2004 Sam Leffler, Errno Consulting > * All rights reserved. Of course you do! because some of reyk's work used some of Sam's work, and unlike what it seems a portion of the Linux community seems to be willing to do in their Zealotry for the GPL, reyk is not *removing and modifying* the licenses granted by the original authors. That's the point. He's not saying he wrote this piece, and he's not *changing* the conditions under which Sam distributed the code in the first place. However what scares me more is the seeming willingness to make the authors of a derivative work appear to be the primary authors of something, and a willingness to change an authors copyright statement (on reyk's code) without his permission. I have always immensely respected the GPL - it has very noble goals, they are very appropriate in some cases, they don't happen to be mine, but that's fine, I don't release my code under it - but that's fine, it's my choice. Just like many smart people who I know and respect do their work in GPL land, and this is great too. However, when it comes time to be looking at someone else's work above all we have to respect the various authors choice of how they want their hard work shared with the community. To me, this seems like a portion of the Linux community seems to be wanting to make their own rules, chosing to rewrite a license at any time they choose without the original author's agreement. This appalls and scares me. Why? not only does it show a huge lack of respect for someone who has worked very hard to produce something the whole community can use, but seriously undermines software freedom as a whole. This is a slippery slope. If one community starts modifying the others licenses for no purpose other than zealotry, I see only two consequences: 1) a hugh rift of mistrust between the developers of both camps, meaning no cooperating to make the world a better place. 2) A weakening of the respect for licensing on all sides of the community, which weakens the credibility of both BSD *AND* the GPL license when tested from the outside. Frankly, this scares the hell out of me and dismays me. I seriously hope that saner more mature and forward thinking heads inside the Linux community will stop bashing the things that Theo and the rest of our community is saying just because it's coming from Theo, and he's a great target to bash, and start thinking about what you are doing to free software as a whole. I think you are on the verge of doing irreparable damage that will seriously weaken the ability for all of our projects to move forward, and protect our rights as code authors in the future. -Bob ----- End forwarded message ----- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/