Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49A9C636CD for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2023 06:28:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229491AbjBEG2E (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Feb 2023 01:28:04 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:47028 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229447AbjBEG17 (ORCPT ); Sun, 5 Feb 2023 01:27:59 -0500 Received: from mail-pl1-x62c.google.com (mail-pl1-x62c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::62c]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A65335FFB for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2023 22:27:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pl1-x62c.google.com with SMTP id r8so9192807pls.2 for ; Sat, 04 Feb 2023 22:27:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=w5uhpcMM1cFhPo+XgCsUpJVUPPR6aW7pgEp9reAaVU8=; b=AynH3mL+FV8+h6KaIJjFdI8qpck5IDz+rpwSGr4b4ttYaUENp7lKIo2Dr1d0mHv+/3 5Z2jMYohASKwSF9UuuLTJxIERb6RU+cjR3OXBDj59+CxBm8VIQUw1xopgVqjnXBTLYxJ bAECeywrxHN0jcjnVVbIEmH6fmToMoKuF/RRjYGHmZBT3fBXYa/7dG7ex1yuwzjyiuwc eoUMdjhWTns9zC2yaG+7rjxB+gLL58L3QA8+DD9iDhWxcYJIL8kamolCdoNuZEXg8WIq u+t6Wfvbi/ALo7b8Q6mvrnKYNRITOGnLqvf0gyaK5sZzNv/M/gE6bpUqfs6iGYgm3alU xiXg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=w5uhpcMM1cFhPo+XgCsUpJVUPPR6aW7pgEp9reAaVU8=; b=adtSHNb74RpFAUoT+0F66IX7fYgUgEEuSRpulbUkX8n1NXb8YmFuq1dtI9Mn1k3ENR 2d7+qNfKNUg8+QGvy4N0pd8Mlxg5T9OVkGU2shfPEWfz53IrzAoI8/s6QMPCWm/0wtLs Rh90lru3t644XhKlGr9j80Oz/b/AVZ0Jj4lXeeYC4IGKEy57y4NzTYAw0fsSqZRnhC3g FcJQt/82xYOu2sWylL5xz+ui79wFNrCzXLnAFi9tGIG84D1aCF1FQeQbGpPd7peZN5pn Lf+d9yzRJZ9LMVFzgSEN1x1mTfC4I+5sQ+Jbrc3vG70t0T6vpLxfE+QCqH/BZn0vGEMw EJxw== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKXCwsgpNJxccgE5mhsgac+2sXvwQPm9cuupdzewry3Z9QiAd0ic 68O9j9CiT1LZxxEc+oFmoMAI9rObU6TLt/X+Hgc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set+8L7fjL9SpblBdOh9YhbnuXshulzQmopTEsFohzmZAk93SllAf2dQYneXMCiJ8KSVSU/hRB1/2EfB+s5P0JFU= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:e74c:b0:196:1951:3fb7 with SMTP id p12-20020a170902e74c00b0019619513fb7mr3665353plf.1.1675578473894; Sat, 04 Feb 2023 22:27:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <96e41e6d-bec9-f8cf-22ed-1fa5d9022238@amd.com> <314489f6-cb54-fb3b-6557-d69b1284fa4d@amd.com> <20230114071412.GB5088@1wt.eu> In-Reply-To: From: Ruslan Bilovol Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2023 01:27:42 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Reg the next LTS kernel (6.1?) To: Greg KH Cc: Willy Tarreau , "Theodore Ts'o" , Michal Simek , Kris Chaplin , Linux Kernel Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 3:31 AM Greg KH wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 08:14:12AM +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 04:40:19PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 05:22:56PM +0100, Greg KH wrote: > > > > > I am just saying that developers/driver owners can simple do calculation to > > > > > identify LTS version. When they know it they also know time when their > > > > > deadline is for upstreaming work. It means if patch is accepted between > > > > > 6.0-r1 and 6.0-rc5/6 they know that it will get to 6.1 merge window. > > > > > > > > That is what I am afraid of and if it causes problems I will purposfully > > > > pick the previous release. This has happened in the past and is never > > > > an excuse to get anything merged. Code gets merged when it is ready, > > > > not based on a LTS release. > > > > > > This is probably the best reason not to preannounce when the LTS > > > release will be ahead of time --- because it can be abused by > > > developers who try to get not-ready-for-prime-time features into what > > > they think will be the LTS kernel, with the result that the last > > > release of the year could be utterly unsitable for that perpose. > > > > We know this risk exists but since Greg never makes promises on any > > version, it remains reasonable. > > I have to _not_ make promises because in the past when I did, people > threw crap into the kernel with the "justification" that they had to get > it in this specific kernel because it was going to be the LTS one. > > We can't have nice things, because people abuse it :( So, is there a final decision taken on what will be our next LTS? Went through https://kernel.org/category/releases.html but it still shows v5.15 as the latest LTS version. Thanks, Ruslan