Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B73BC05027 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 2023 15:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231464AbjBHPeQ (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Feb 2023 10:34:16 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:56158 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229895AbjBHPeP (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Feb 2023 10:34:15 -0500 Received: from foss.arm.com (foss.arm.com [217.140.110.172]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2A1036698; Wed, 8 Feb 2023 07:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (unknown [10.121.207.14]) by usa-sjc-mx-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9ED1477; Wed, 8 Feb 2023 07:34:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from bogus (unknown [10.57.10.143]) by usa-sjc-imap-foss1.foss.arm.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 23E203F8C6; Wed, 8 Feb 2023 07:34:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2023 15:34:07 +0000 From: Sudeep Holla To: Kazuki Cc: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Sudeep Holla , "Rafael J. Wysocki" , Daniel Lezcano , Lorenzo Pieralisi , Hector Martin , Sven Peter , Len Brown , Pavel Machek Subject: Re: s2idle breaks on machines without cpuidle support Message-ID: <20230208153407.4a5vnbctf77xf5vf@bogus> References: <20230204152747.drte4uitljzngdt6@kazuki-mac> <20230206101239.dret3fv65cnzpken@bogus> <20230207194818.exskn3dhyzqwr32v@kazuki-mac> <20230208103511.w7jzxw6spy6humdn@bogus> <20230208112031.sdfuluajjerf4wwp@kazuki-mac> <20230208141658.kede5ylqk4zqvrnj@bogus> <20230208144327.3ftjxnquwhsdykfc@kazuki-mac> <20230208150306.ve2pnt3pvlmf5wbu@bogus> <20230208151939.meya6c5gayspvmtr@kazuki-mac> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20230208151939.meya6c5gayspvmtr@kazuki-mac> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 12:19:39AM +0900, Kazuki wrote: > On Wed, Feb 08, 2023 at 03:03:06PM +0000, Sudeep Holla wrote: [...] > > Well, if we are allowing to boot on such a system, then we must allow > > adding a platform specific idle driver. It may be useful once we info > > to add deeper than WFI states. > > Hmmm, I thought for arm64, non-PSCI idle drivers were prohibited? Or am > I mistaken here? I don't know. I am not against it especially now that we have allowed a non-PSCI based production system to boot the kernel. > > Are we ? I thought were making changes to enable it. Or are you saying > > we allow to enter into such a state and render the system unusable, if > > so we need to fix it. > > Both as I mentioned in my first email. Apologies if it turned out to > be confusing. Sorry still confusing. Are you saying you can enter s2idle and crash or hang the system without changes(especially around this s2idle code) ? If yes, then it is a bug. If the hang/crash is only after your changes, we need to check. -- Regards, Sudeep