Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4B6C05027 for ; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 20:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229758AbjBQUXR (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Feb 2023 15:23:17 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:50220 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229746AbjBQUXN (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Feb 2023 15:23:13 -0500 Received: from mx0b-0031df01.pphosted.com (mx0b-0031df01.pphosted.com [205.220.180.131]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A5A860A50; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 12:23:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0279873.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-0031df01.pphosted.com (8.17.1.19/8.17.1.19) with ESMTP id 31HE1FHg009572; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 20:22:58 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=quicinc.com; h=from : to : cc : subject : date : message-id : mime-version : content-type; s=qcppdkim1; bh=OwC1YUWD4RDPqj6ij1e+DtTL840oqoIG3+VP9IMFt2g=; b=bopzOf1sOHwKpGmFctnCshxn/e3t7HACszkx8XXJmZidnK75m5QfFlWdsc1irOH1jO94 Rqgl99mQ1rkNYGtvlf3skcBhcG1dMhq9LsGLR/t0M8qRfiCGKvMlbj0ThTCyp83YRbUi o6VLEZZrtKl7b5t6ebvoy+yccyTCgKFahXR+HSNFQhwRqLcGB8Ouihb/PPf4B4fJ5Ttm XxqaIz4Xz/+6cQJJL8+GaLBWCb0aar0ihUlWah3EPZz5poqPlLp33HGfsTKlpJbkuK9/ LCBieBD+YiTcYs6qjt+MxfNArLy/fE/GEFSbQIkUEz3sxXLwQkmYfK2ofWLLV2bZPJzf Zg== Received: from nalasppmta03.qualcomm.com (Global_NAT1.qualcomm.com [129.46.96.20]) by mx0a-0031df01.pphosted.com (PPS) with ESMTPS id 3ntayfs34c-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 17 Feb 2023 20:22:58 +0000 Received: from nalasex01c.na.qualcomm.com (nalasex01c.na.qualcomm.com [10.47.97.35]) by NALASPPMTA03.qualcomm.com (8.17.1.5/8.17.1.5) with ESMTPS id 31HKMuxI015818 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 17 Feb 2023 20:22:56 GMT Received: from hu-johmoo-lv.qualcomm.com (10.49.16.6) by nalasex01c.na.qualcomm.com (10.47.97.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.2.986.41; Fri, 17 Feb 2023 12:22:56 -0800 From: John Moon To: Masahiro Yamada , Nathan Chancellor , Nick Desaulniers , "Nicolas Schier" CC: John Moon , , , , , Trilok Soni , "Greg Kroah-Hartman" , Bjorn Andersson , Todd Kjos , Matthias Maennich , Giuliano Procida , , Jordan Crouse Subject: [PATCH RESEND 0/1] Validating UAPI backwards compatibility Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 12:22:33 -0800 Message-ID: <20230217202234.32260-1-quic_johmoo@quicinc.com> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.17.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-IP: [10.49.16.6] X-ClientProxiedBy: nalasex01c.na.qualcomm.com (10.47.97.35) To nalasex01c.na.qualcomm.com (10.47.97.35) X-QCInternal: smtphost X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6200 definitions=5800 signatures=585085 X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: gQ__dsIXddcnFwqLNS6LKYVPkVedklXQ X-Proofpoint-GUID: gQ__dsIXddcnFwqLNS6LKYVPkVedklXQ X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=baseguard engine=ICAP:2.0.219,Aquarius:18.0.930,Hydra:6.0.562,FMLib:17.11.170.22 definitions=2023-02-17_14,2023-02-17_01,2023-02-09_01 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 bulkscore=0 phishscore=0 spamscore=0 priorityscore=1501 impostorscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 adultscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2212070000 definitions=main-2302170178 Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org + linux-arm-kernel and Greg KH Hi all, The kernel community has rigorously enforced a policy of backwards compatibility in its UAPI headers for a long time. This has allowed user applications to enjoy stability across kernel upgrades without recompiling. In the vendor driver community (out-of-tree modules), there's been a lack of discipline when it comes to maintaining UAPI backwards compatibility. This has been a maintenance burden and limits our options for long-term support of older devices. Our goal is to add tooling for vendor driver developers because the upstream model of expert maintainer code review can be difficult to replicate in-house. Tools may help developers catch simple UAPI incompatibilities that could be easily overlooked by in-house review. We see in the kernel documentation: "Kernel headers are backwards compatible, but not forwards compatible. This means that a program built against a C library using older kernel headers should run on a newer kernel (although it may not have access to new features), but a program built against newer kernel headers may not work on an older kernel."[1] How does the kernel enforce this guarantee? We would be interested to learn about any tools or methods used by kernel developers to make sure the above statement remains true. Could the documentation on UAPI maintenance (from a developer's point of view) be expanded? Internally, we have a set of guidelines for our kernel developers regarding UAPI compatibility techniques. If there's interest in supplying a document on this topic with the kernel, we'd be happy to submit a draft detailing what we have so far as a jumping off point. Additionally, I've attached a shell script we've been using internally to validate changes to our UAPI headers are backwards compatible. The script uses libabigail's[2] tool abidiff[3] to compare a modified header's ABI before and after a patch is applied. If an existing UAPI is modified, the script exits non-zero. We use this script in our CI system to block changes that fail the check. Currently, the script works with gcc. It generates output like this when a backwards-incompatible change is made to a UAPI header: !!! ABI differences detected in include/uapi/linux/acct.h (compared to file at HEAD^1) !!! [C] 'struct acct' changed: type size changed from 512 to 544 (in bits) 1 data member insertion: '__u32 new_val', at offset 512 (in bits) at acct.h:71:1 0/1 UAPI header file changes are backwards compatible UAPI header ABI check failed However, we have not had success with clang. It seems clang is more aggressive in optimizing dead code away (no matter which options we pass). Therefore, no ABI differences are found. We wanted to share with the community to receive feedback and any advice when it comes to tooling/policy surrounding this issue. Our hope is that the script will help all kernel UAPI authors (even those that haven't upstreamed yet) maintain good discipline and avoid breaking userspace. [1] Documentation/kbuild/headers_install.rst [2] https://sourceware.org/libabigail/manual/libabigail-overview.html [3] https://sourceware.org/libabigail/manual/abidiff.html P.S. While at Qualcomm, Jordan Crouse authored the original version of the UAPI checker script. Thanks Jordan! John Moon (1): check-uapi: Introduce check-uapi.sh scripts/check-uapi.sh | 245 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 245 insertions(+) create mode 100755 scripts/check-uapi.sh base-commit: 033c40a89f55525139fd5b6342281b09b97d05bf -- 2.17.1