Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756027AbXIJJIX (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:08:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750972AbXIJJIQ (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:08:16 -0400 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:47057 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750717AbXIJJIP (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:08:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:08:08 +0100 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Andrew Morton Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Adrian Bunk , perex@suse.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [-mm patch] unexport sys_{open,read} Message-ID: <20070910090808.GA31204@infradead.org> Mail-Followup-To: Christoph Hellwig , Andrew Morton , Adrian Bunk , perex@suse.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20070909202527.GT3563@stusta.de> <20070909203920.GA11764@infradead.org> <20070909145940.0b41c8a5.akpm@linux-foundation.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20070909145940.0b41c8a5.akpm@linux-foundation.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1355 Lines: 26 On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 02:59:40PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > Sure. But I think it is better to give people some warning when we're > planning on breaking out-of-tree things. I do occasionally receive reports > of "hey, the X driver which I get from Y doesn't work any more". Often > it's open-source stuff, too. I see no point in irritating our users more than > we need to. There is no fucking reason they should have used it in the first place. Until we have something like a coherent export API instead of random crap exported because someone once needed it to do a dumb thing it'll happen. Only way to avoid it is to merge the driver and shake out their dumb ideas in the review process. > Adrian knows this, yet he habitually sends zero-warning export-removal > patches and I habitually ignore them. I guess we must both enjoy this or > something. And I think almost everyone disagrees with you. We just carry too much crap around because of your subborness in this issue, and it gets really annoying to have some high up on the food chain fighting his longly flight against the other people. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/