Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFDBAC64EC7 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 17:49:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S234447AbjBURtT (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Feb 2023 12:49:19 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:35344 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S233945AbjBURtR (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Feb 2023 12:49:17 -0500 Received: from out-49.mta0.migadu.com (out-49.mta0.migadu.com [IPv6:2001:41d0:1004:224b::31]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D113B2E0E6 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 2023 09:49:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2023 09:48:53 -0800 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linux.dev; s=key1; t=1677001755; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=JaPQBeAqUbK/3uqJSLJQEsHhoRu/puBJx1HPQm6lT2k=; b=k4AQBnnNlebWncyyit/YQ4icinXPdj7y+dPZM0jGb8f0Q87q0GA2cL+WHiURqTE7xqk/LQ ZasPA7nfI8VWU2k5NRuBbPxbjzzff5gy14YAPvMueZUMEpggw0lDSCOIidUbvK+0WMuvsj ptaJ8q09dJHrgHQOuhx0x3iMvIEFJzI= X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. From: Roman Gushchin To: Muchun Song Cc: Shakeel Butt , Yue Zhao , Linux Memory Management List , Andrew Morton , Johannes Weiner , Michal Hocko , cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: change memcg->oom_group access with atomic operations Message-ID: References: <20230220230624.lkobqeagycx7bi7p@google.com> <6563189C-7765-4FFA-A8F2-A5CC4860A1EF@linux.dev> <61CA5FFC-547B-4F56-9238-C9096223BF80@linux.dev> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <61CA5FFC-547B-4F56-9238-C9096223BF80@linux.dev> X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 03:22:32PM +0800, Muchun Song wrote: > > > > On Feb 21, 2023, at 13:17, Roman Gushchin wrote: > > > >> On Feb 20, 2023, at 3:06 PM, Shakeel Butt wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 01:09:44PM -0800, Roman Gushchin wrote: > >>>> On Mon, Feb 20, 2023 at 11:16:38PM +0800, Yue Zhao wrote: > >>>> The knob for cgroup v2 memory controller: memory.oom.group > >>>> will be read and written simultaneously by user space > >>>> programs, thus we'd better change memcg->oom_group access > >>>> with atomic operations to avoid concurrency problems. > >>>> > >>>> Signed-off-by: Yue Zhao > >>> > >>> Hi Yue! > >>> > >>> I'm curious, have any seen any real issues which your patch is solving? > >>> Can you, please, provide a bit more details. > >>> > >> > >> IMHO such details are not needed. oom_group is being accessed > >> concurrently and one of them can be a write access. At least > >> READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE is needed here. > > > > Needed for what? > > > > I mean it’s obviously not a big deal to put READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE() here, but I struggle to imagine a scenario when it will make any difference. IMHO it’s easier to justify a proper atomic operation here, even if it’s most likely an overkill. > > > > My question is very simple: the commit log mentions “… to avoid concurrency problems”, so I wonder what problems are these. > > I think there is no difference in the assembly code between them in most > cases. The only intention that I can think of is to avoid the potential > complaint (data race) emitted by KCSAN. +1 And it might be a totally good reason for this change, let's just make it clear, instead of pretending to fix non-existing concurrency problems. Thanks!