Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693B9C64EC7 for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2023 02:14:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229615AbjBZCOh (ORCPT ); Sat, 25 Feb 2023 21:14:37 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:40284 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229540AbjBZCOd (ORCPT ); Sat, 25 Feb 2023 21:14:33 -0500 Received: from mail-ed1-x52a.google.com (mail-ed1-x52a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52a]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9D46113FC for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:14:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ed1-x52a.google.com with SMTP id h16so12294135edz.10 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:14:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=linux-foundation.org; s=google; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=WrheFcgQEPwZjvgo8TDr9t7WDxew84jDqDyy77Jx6U4=; b=LMXAOqzcMAN8M0lUbRtgYnlyXLIjveY033hYrk0yuyDTD16izAhROYfs6Dd2+iGxUl ri8t0ubJGiCGQKZMyPWaunCEEmpXQIGOTdBHG27Y5AbKBnuts8q1DedSkg5+wLf53rIB Ix7vxtPJdyIduJc/OL4K54Yie45HlYpHQ0HrE= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=WrheFcgQEPwZjvgo8TDr9t7WDxew84jDqDyy77Jx6U4=; b=HDU2pObU3AoU0eCqwpU1eSt5G/YBZ8hPUkdBQaQbycx+4o5dIgSF7Q88Ad8jvQ1I67 3cXTIV4eU9M5LQ+TLcHdWslr4ML8xETNY/BaItfDWSXummnyFilUlr3Qp6Hk8HW7NAvt VMVbjZJZfcNhyekBn7E+/69xclttILr995S3NvQrxoc52U6lZWWrKqhN1K80LNz+x2Pq Etj7PEAXjkTwb+lj7Wc44rLh5Q4UZtJw5rcpqcXS14FM0IQOHcBKteAXFmgIJV/SQ+Uw CPDFTjx4pfGKsjOdi8RP77JvSImyL+gU6niFrUzppILOzpuu1Q8zSW76u2N3wbwDLkba JqVA== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKU/zNWeC1dgLBGb6HUXREEcLKMJLlZt+ZU0Px19t6jfAWA+mMdg SPxRZg7hrPaFj2itw0M2PLov5H6ooRjMlB9ojxQGyA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set9n3GQ0VZslWxqFfDZyBvBcdE+lGpy46Mr0qePn1FADkdMy9kSbMEok/swKaYynsUAool/STQ== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:1689:b0:87b:dac1:bbe6 with SMTP id s9-20020a170906168900b0087bdac1bbe6mr29379538ejd.36.1677377670185; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:14:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ed1-f43.google.com (mail-ed1-f43.google.com. [209.85.208.43]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m18-20020a1709061ed200b008d427df3245sm1456128ejj.58.2023.02.25.18.14.28 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:14:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ed1-f43.google.com with SMTP id i34so12367800eda.7 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:14:28 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:b55:b0:8f1:4cc5:f14c with SMTP id v21-20020a1709060b5500b008f14cc5f14cmr4302368ejg.0.1677377668178; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:14:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Linus Torvalds Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 18:14:11 -0800 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] TTY/Serial driver updates for 6.3-rc1 To: "Theodore Ts'o" Cc: Greg KH , Tharun Kumar P , Kumaravel Thiagarajan , Andy Shevchenko , Jiri Slaby , Stephen Rothwell , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-serial@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 3:40=E2=80=AFPM Theodore Ts'o wrote= : > > For what it's worth, in the VM world (e.g., qemu, AWS, GCP, Azure, > Linode, etc.) serial consoles are quite common way of debugging VM's, > and as an emergency login path when the networking has been screwed up > for some reason.... Everybody seems to be missing the point. We don't make new drivers "default y" (or, in this case, "default SERIAL_82= 50". It does not matter ONE WHIT if you have a serial device in your machine. If your old driver was enabled and worked for you and you used it daily, that is ENTIRELY IMMATERIAL to a new driver, even if that new driver then happens to use some of the same infrastructure as the old one did. Linus