Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A2BC6FA8E for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2023 06:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229618AbjBZGuK (ORCPT ); Sun, 26 Feb 2023 01:50:10 -0500 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:36622 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229606AbjBZGuH (ORCPT ); Sun, 26 Feb 2023 01:50:07 -0500 Received: from ams.source.kernel.org (ams.source.kernel.org [IPv6:2604:1380:4601:e00::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87CC9C66E; Sat, 25 Feb 2023 22:50:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.kernel.org (relay.kernel.org [52.25.139.140]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ams.source.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2810AB80B03; Sun, 26 Feb 2023 06:50:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6800FC433D2; Sun, 26 Feb 2023 06:50:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1677394203; bh=vF+70qVhywRhbCbGBSckNNXQtvtxvXSYrI8qFIqDfME=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=kYX1JmlVZqypNXaBRZ9k+aBqOQWjPtujHrLc+hdw6dN367POk0TvH9ajz/X+d4oto oJOHK+tVYYgQqL35ScYEucrCV+pX5GHuHd1zgXRdnEcPhFyJH0ICm/3lMJRy3HYU5k yktbU8bCTUh8xqAHTPN/BDXbGqWVQDWItXgUzjEs= Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2023 07:50:01 +0100 From: Greg KH To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Theodore Ts'o , Tharun Kumar P , Kumaravel Thiagarajan , Andy Shevchenko , Jiri Slaby , Stephen Rothwell , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-serial@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] TTY/Serial driver updates for 6.3-rc1 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 06:14:11PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 3:40 PM Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > > > For what it's worth, in the VM world (e.g., qemu, AWS, GCP, Azure, > > Linode, etc.) serial consoles are quite common way of debugging VM's, > > and as an emergency login path when the networking has been screwed up > > for some reason.... > > Everybody seems to be missing the point. > > We don't make new drivers "default y" (or, in this case, "default SERIAL_8250". > > It does not matter ONE WHIT if you have a serial device in your > machine. If your old driver was enabled and worked for you and you > used it daily, that is ENTIRELY IMMATERIAL to a new driver, even if > that new driver then happens to use some of the same infrastructure as > the old one did. I agree, sorry for the delay, I'll fix this up before -final for this release. thanks, greg k-h